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Old 10-13-2008, 03:37 PM
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hodown- i hear you sort of on MSU. But OSU managed 2 FG's at home vs. a Purdue team that ranks dead last in the Big10 in YPC at 4.7 and dead last in total yards allowed at 400+. Not sure how much you've been actually watching OSU but Tressel has Pryor playing scared and their O-line is awful. Purdue was in their backfield all day long Saturday. Plus, MSU has been a thorn in the side of the buckeyes for years. And if you expect a low scoring game, then i don't see how you can lay points, especially anything over a FG. I hear you on the ATS road favorite angle, but keep in mind, most of those were with Troy Smith and a potent OSU offense. This team has been a road favorite exactly one time and barely came away with a win vs. what i now feel is a below average Wisconsin team. OSU has been shooting themselves in the foot game after game after game. They fumbled 2x on the final drive vs. WIS and were lucky to recover both of them. I will probably stay away from the game because i don't necessarily want MSU either and they were wildly outgained by Northworstern on Saturday.

But Tressel is almost as conservative as ive ever seen him and it's ruining the OSU offense. Not to mention the play calling is terrible. And OSU's front 7 have not been good against the run.

I do agree the Under is probably the best play here, especially if you can get something in the 40's.

I just can't lay 3 points based on what i've seen from OSU this year. When you can't move the ball at home vs. Ohio, Troy or Purdue (who is dead last in the big10 in D), how can one justify laying 3+ on the road is my contention. And you can't make a play based on "best case scenario". If you've seen X out of a team for 7 games, why is game 8 going to be any different, especially when you've seen nothing that would lead you to believe they are getting any better on offense. Plus to lay 3 points you have to feel that OSU wins by a TD or more or there is no use playing it. And i don't see how you can have a feeling that way based on this season's results. Plus MSU is a better team than Wisconsin. People are crapping on MSU because they think it's the same old MSU but it's not. They have a very good coach now in an ex Cincinnati Bearcats coach and ex-coordinator at OSU under Tressel in Dantonio, who put UC back on the map. Different mindset at MSU now.

I honestly think MSU has a very good chance to win SU. My feeling is that Sweater Vest will probably ESCAPE with a 3 point win. 20-17 buckeyes. But just like the game at Wisconsin that i sat through in person, he will keep the Spartans in the game with conservative don't make mistakes play calling. You can't do that with a guy like Pryor.
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