Sunday Discussion

[FlyersFan]

couple things i wanted to post and then jump on in.....

OSU -7 over MIN....this game got nasty in MIN and the buckeyes were without turner and still had the halftime lead before being outscored 25-7 to start the 2H. OSU is 12-0 at home with an average winning margin of like 20 points (grant it that takes into consideration the howard state games et al but they beat WIS by 9 and NW by like 20 and i think both of those teams are better than MIN).......revenge spot works today i think and this is the first of a very important 3 game homestand for OSU who has spent a lot of conference time on the road. PSU and Iowa i believe up next so this game should get them going.

TENN -7.........i can't believe these high lines with home teams this year. I swear these lines would have come like -4 or so in the past. TENN owns FLA and is coming off 2 straight conference losses and a loss at home to Vandy (which is not a bad loss other than they lost at home). I am just wondering if TENN can put it together as FLA has won 4 in a row and is playing pretty decent ball, though, they cough up a ton of points. What are people's thoughts here?

PUR vs PSU.....boiler feels this way i know in talking to him that he thinks PUR is going to open a can on PSU and i kind of do to. We all toiled the best way to play the WIS game and that fell flat other than the ML on the game. Best way to play this one? Anyone actually like the points with PSU on a possible back door? I would lean 1H.

UMD @ CLEM -4............CLEM lost 3 in a row in conference and that UNC win is looking like a steaming turd fading in the rearview mirror. UMD coming in the owners of first place in the ACC and i would think CLEM would really need to win this game to stay anywhere near the conference top. Only meeting of the season. (a) who wins and (b) who covers? I lean home team but much like Tennessee, you say to yourself that this is Oliver Purnell and the perennial underachieving Clemson Tigers.


BEST ML Plays for SUNDAY:

All 7 of mine from the list hit on Saturday. Hopefully somebody used those. I didn't use UGA 1H being gone for most of the day but did hit with the original 4 suggestion as well as a 2nd one i got a hankerin' for later in the day in UCLA +6 -220, ILLST -380, DRK -1 which hit as well.

PUR 1H ML (i can't see them down at the half unless they are totally turds and this will give you better value on the ML)

TENN ML.....thoughts above. Really not seeing a TENN loss but the way they have played makes me leery much like Texas losing at home to Baylor when Texas has pretty much been a pile of **** for 3 weeks.

OSU ML.........buckeyes should win here or i would be shocked. Any dissention on this one?

UNC ML...........Heels going to tank another one at home? Doubtful to a UVA team that is fading like AC Earl's do in the late 80's......

CLEM ML...........still debating this one and it's the only one i'm really not at least 95% sold on. Would like to hear some thoughts here. The goal is to not add a marginal play that kills 4 or 5 good ones.

I have been playing 3-5 teamers and nothing more. Had a 4 and a 3 on Saturday and a 5 on Thursday. Hit 3 4 teamers last saturday. Seems like good workable numbers on 3-5 per play depending on the amount of games and the quality.


i think those 5 should pay about +340 to +360 depending on the exact money lines unless i totally screwed it up.


If anyone doesn't like any of those i would like to hear why....maybe i missed something (or maybe you're just flat out wrong.......don't light me up daws....)

GL to everyone on Sunday........and feel free to discuss anything in this thread as that is all i really looked at.

[BoilerBacker]

Liking Wis Mil vs. Butler. Butler on their 4th straight road game. Pounded GB so I think they are maybe going to be a little relaxed vs. middle of road Mil team.

Like Purdue but they have burned me. Actually think they might start slow then turn on the jets later. They escaped vs. Wis and have won 3 straight. 15 pts is a lot to give in a major conference game.

[BUNK MORELAND]

I wouldn't play against Florida right now , i actually think the over is a strong play in that one or grab the points with the gators ...JUST MY OPINION. They've won four of their last six and even those two losses were very close games as they lead at the half at vandy and lost by twelve to kentucky in the other game .. I don't love the spot for Florida in thi one but i couldn't see myself laying 7 with VOLS. Florida gets good guard play from Boynton and Walker and their bigs have been showing up lateley...Florida is 15-5 right now and looking like a tourney team , this could do wonders for their resume if they can get a big road win in ROCKY TOP


Jermaine Dixon will not play today for P, I , double which means you may see more of Gilbert Brown. He hasn't started a game since returning from academic suspension,so i expect him to take advantage of the more minutes he should get today.This could be a good thing for Pitt.

[Nicky Santoro]

I'm with you on the revenge factor for the Bucks. Last meeting the Buckeyes shot a miserable 27% from the arc and 52% from the stripe, with Minnesota shooting 47% and 73% respectively. The Gophers are playing pretty good hoops but, 2-8 the last 8 ATS losing 4 of 6. Close loss to the Spartans. I believe this is a close game around middle of the second half. Ohio St. should pull away and get the defense working. 3 of 12 opposing teams have dropped 60+ points in C-Bus all year and that was in the early going. MIN are 5-16-1 ATS in their last 22 road games. I like the Bucks big. I'll have a small play on the under 136.5.

I feel the Panthers are getting no respect with a line of -3 even going to S. Florida. This team won 3 road games in a row (UCONN, Cincy, Syr). Now granted they have lost 2 of their last 3 with the last win against the Red Storm. During their last 10 games they've gone 7-1-1 ATS, gotta love that. The Bulls have gone 4-0 the last 4 ATS beating Rutgers and The Hall @ home. Sorry, not impressed. This has Johnny come lately written on it. Jermaine Dixon remains a game time decision for Pitt, but the defense is still top notch. They keep the Bulls Dominique Jones around 20 the Panthers should cover that number of 3. Jones goes off again for a third straight game then it's trouble. I like the Panthers in this one.

[joepa66]

The majority of the MAC teams have their 3-game in one week schedule hitting them this week with the exception of Ball State. The Cardinals will be playing their 4th game since Jan. 23, 5th since Jan. 20th, and 3rd in the last 6 days when they visit Ohio today! BSU has had great success during this stretch winning against Western in Muncie, losing @ EMU, then beating Miami,OH in 2 OTs in Muncie, and then beat slumping Buffalo on the road. This game is their 3rd this week and now they have to travel to oHIo to take on the Bobcats.

Ohio has blew out NIU in Normal and blasted Buffalo at the Convo hitting 21 3s in those two victories. Could this be another blow out as Ball State comes to town with weary legs while OU is on a two game roll? The Bobbies average 77.6ppg at home while BSU's road scoring average is 55.6ppg!

The Bobcats rang up 99 points for the second straight game by outscoring Northern Illinois by 15, put all five starters in double figures and had more than 30 field goals for the second straight time. The Bobcats got 20-point efforts from D.J. Cooper and Armon Bassett, while making just six turnovers with seven available scholarship players. That was the 18th time in 20 games that the Bobcats have committed fewer than the opposition. Freshman point guard D.J. Cooper has scored in double figures in 15 of his first 20 collegiate contests this season. He is averaging 13.8 points, 5.7 assists, 4.6 rebounds, and 3.0 steals per game. But don't forget about Indiana transfer Armon Basset who is 4th in the MAC in scoring and who has been filling it up of late scoring 20+ pts. in 2 of the last three games.

[BUNK MORELAND]

RPI -21 they played some tough teams prior to PAC 10 play ..


I think their experience at guard is huge in this one ...

Randle is a good guy to have when taking a road team

Randle Wise
Christopher Williams

pretty good matchups in this game

Cal is 8-2 since losing to kansas in kansas in december
- one of those losses is by one point


I think that win over AZ ST was huge for Cal

They led big in the second half , and then took a good shot from AZ ST as AZ ST cut it to two in the final minutes. CAL hung tough and pulled out the 8 point win


Pretty big game today , both teams bring in a 3 game win streak

[BUNK MORELAND]

Pitt owns the Big East's best road record over the last nine years with a 44-27 record (.620 winning percentage). Connecticut ranks second with a 42-27 slate. Pitt has claimed 11 of its last 14 games, is 4-1 overall and 3-1 in league play on the road this year.



Pitt enters the contest after having won nine of its last 11 games and 13 of its last 16 contests. It recently completed one of its most difficult schedule stretches in years. For the first time since it joined the Big East Conference in 1982, Pitt won three consecutive back-to-back-to-back road games at No. 5 Syracuse (87-72), at Cincinnati (74-71) and at No. 16 Connecticut (67-57). It defeated Louisville 82-77 in overtime on Jan. 13 and concluded the stretch with a 74-66 home loss to Georgetown, which snapped the Panthers' 31-game home win streak.


Some of those wins seem forever ago to me ..

I guess Dixon is just day to day and hasn't been ruled out .. I really don't think it's that big of a deal. You will probably see more Woodall against SF .. Woodall is fast, athletic ( typical new york city pitt pg CUSEFAN said that ) ... But that moves Gibbs to the two , his more natural position ...

I like Pitt -3

Pitt is getting nothing from Dante Taylor right now , but this could be the day he explodes.

The homer P, I , double fan i am , i'll most likely take em

[Daws1089]

Flyers,

I used 4 of your MLs yesterday, thanks.

Today I rolled with MISS -800, UNC -375 and OSU -370

just short of 1 to 1. Best option In felt like.

GL

Pitt line looks short, no?

[BUNK MORELAND]

Originally Posted by Daws1089

Flyers,

I used 4 of your MLs yesterday, thanks.

Today I rolled with MISS -800, UNC -375 and OSU -370

just short of 1 to 1. Best option In felt like.

GL

Pitt line looks short, no?

Lines been short all year with them . No respect from the oddsmakers this year has led to a solid 10-6-2 ATS for them ...

[Nigel Tufnel]

Another ML game that caught my eye was Duquesne. They are coming off a demoralizing loss to X on Thursday night, have only won one conference game, but are getting 7 pts at home today against St. Joe's. The Dukes have some pretty decent players and have lost a lot of close games against pretty decent competition...I think they are better than their record indicates and I don't think much of St. Joe this year. I also think Everhart is a pretty decent coach and I know he was thoroughly disgusted by the way the Dukes played against X on Thursday. I think he'll have them ready to go today against Martelli and Co.

Also looking at the under in the X-Fordham game. Fordham is so dreadful that X's RPI takes a horrible hit even with a win today. Its hard not to look at this game as a bit of a scrimmage for X. If X gets out to a big lead, which I think they will, then I think Mack will go deep to his bench today to get some minutes for the guys who don't see a lot of playing time. Wouldn't be surprised to see the walk ons in the game with 10 minutes left if X is comfortably ahead. On the flip side, I think Fordham will have a very difficult time scoring on X's defense @ the Cintas Center.

I'm not sure Fordham gets to 60 today. With a lot of bench and walk on time, I'm not sure the total will get to 145. Lean to the under today, with a score of X in the low to mid 80's and Fordham in the 50's. 85-59 would still keep it barely below the number. (Like that X math at work there, boys?)

GL!!

[TheBeholdah]

i'm looking maryland today, only thing clemson has going for them is desperation as they really need this one. stitt is doubtful for clemson and booker is recovering from the flu apparantly. i'm not putting much stock into the flu thing, but stitt is a big loss for this game. what is so great about clemson that they are ranked still? they suck at ft's, their outside shooting is weak, and theyre not at full strength. they realy needs stitts penentraion to get their average at best perimeter shooters open looks. stitt's replacement, young, had 5 assists and 4 turnovers last game. he's only 5'9 and may have to guard vasquez who should own him. Maryland is rolling right now.

[FlyersFan]

good thoughts here....

OSU, UNC, PUR 1H and TEN at +130 for me today...

OHIO is -800 and that isn't worth it especially for a MAC team....appreciate the CLEM heads up and i wasn't sold on them anyhow so bye bye....I actually lean to STJOE in an upset Nigel and i don't like to use teams like DUQ in a ML parlay as they are usually the weak link that kills you

Daws- GL!...OlePiss was one i eliminated just because they were -800 and the extra boost you get from using teams that high isn't worth it IMO. for instance it only adds about +16 to the parlay (would take the above from +130 to +146) so i left it off..

Nigel- was looking at X under for that reason

W2- I am not touching that CAL game. UAZ is really playing well but their shot selection is junk and they could win this by 6-8 points or get run out of the gym. Pac10 is whack.

GL to everyone today....

[Florida-Boy]

I was also looking at the wisc-mil game +8 at home. I was hoping someone else would comment on your post.

[FlyersFan]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan

OSU, UNC, PUR 1H and TEN at +130 for me today..

by the hair of the chinny chin chin on a couple of those but alive with UNC remaining.

[FlyersFan]

made a real small play on CLEM -165.