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Old 05-04-2007, 10:54 AM
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Operating a motor vehicle (1) without wearing his seatbelt (2) drunk (3) having smoked a doobie..........really sad....i think WaltJockety knew he was drunk yesterday when he absolved anyone of wrong doing and said he couldn't police everyone.....


Police: Cardinals' Hancock was drunk at time of fatal accident<

By BETSY TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
May 4, 2007

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ST. LOUIS (AP) -- St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk at the time of his fatal accident, and marijuana was found in the sport utility vehicle he was driving.

Police Chief Joe Mokwa also said at a news conference Friday that the 29-year-old Hancock was speaking on a cell phone at about the time of the crash early Sunday on Interstate 64 in St. Louis.

"Mr. Hancock was legally intoxicated at the time of the accident," Mokwa said.

St. Louis medical examiner Michael Graham said Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08.

Mokwa said 8.55 grams of marijuana and a glass pipe used to smoke marijuana were found in the rented Ford Explorer. Toxicology tests to determine if drugs were in his system had not been completed.

An accident reconstruction team determined Hancock was traveling 68 mph in a 55 mph zone when his SUV struck the back of a flatbed tow truck stopped in a driving lane. Mokwa said there was no evidence Hancock tried to stop. He did swerve, but too late to avoid the collision.

Graham said the pitcher died instantly of head injuries. The pitcher was not wearing a seat belt, but Graham said the belt would not have prevented his death.

Mokwa said cell phone records showed Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance at about the time of the accident. Mokwa said the conversation ended abruptly, presumably when the accident occurred.
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quad-fecta actually...

(4) talking on a cell-phone at the time of accident. I swear I see tons of people doing this while almost running over me and my dog. I think some states/provinces are banning this, and I wish Ontario would...

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quad-fecta actually...

(4) talking on a cell-phone at the time of accident. I swear I see tons of people doing this while almost running over me and my dog. I think some states/provinces are banning this, and I wish Ontario would...
lmao...living in SoCal how could i forget that one.....JML- SoCal is the capital of the typical SoCal superficial Mom driving the largest SUV possible with a 3 year old and a 1 year old strapped in the back about 1PM talking on her cell phone.....laughing....not paying a single lick of attention to anything.........i agree...i think that they should make head pieces mandatory at minimum...
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lmao...living in SoCal how could i forget that one.....JML- SoCal is the capital of the typical SoCal superficial Mom driving the largest SUV possible with a 3 year old and a 1 year old strapped in the back about 1PM talking on her cell phone.....laughing....not paying a single lick of attention to anything.........i agree...i think that they should make head pieces mandatory at minimum...
ahhhhhhhhhhh get people over 70 off the road there a bigger probelm than people on their cell phones.......**** in new york u get a ticket for that now......****ers this state is
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people on their cell phones.......**** in new york u get a ticket for that now......****ers this state is
Gotta disagree there, Dan.
Love that law.
Is chatting that inportant that it can't wait?

I agree with FF....headpieces at the very least....
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Gotta disagree there, Dan.
Love that law.
Is chatting that inportant that it can't wait?

I agree with FF....headpieces at the very least....
i hardly ever talk on my cell phone well driving ......usually busy updating scores on my phone tho while driving not sure thats much safer.......but helll 70yr old people driving 20mph and cant see over the steering wheel arent much safer if in fact less safe on the road
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quad-fecta actually...

(4) talking on a cell-phone at the time of accident. I swear I see tons of people doing this while almost running over me and my dog. I think some states/provinces are banning this, and I wish Ontario would...
I wish Alberta would too. A couple months ago a woman backed into me (in a freaking restaurant drive thru!!) while she was talking on her damn cell...

Idiots....
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The way I see it, the problem isn't actually talking on the cell, it's the actual people who talk on the cell....just like everything else.

This f'n country already has entirely too many laws trying to hold people's hands and tell them what they can do, where and when they can do it, and how many times is permitted before becoming illegal.

I've seen chicks applying make up while driving, looking close up in the mirror, and not even looking at all where they were going. I've actually seen a guy READING THE NEWSPAPER once while driving down the highway. Those things IMO are far more distracting and dangerous than simply holding a phone to my ear and talking, while still watching the road and what's going on around me.

As far as headsets go, IMO that's WORSE.

#1, if you're talking on your cell, presumably the problem is that you are distracted by your conversation and not paying attention to driving. How does using a headset help this any?

#2, a headset is far more complicated to operate than simply holding a device in your hand, and anyone that needs to hold the steering wheel with 2 hands while driving to control their vehicle shouldn't have a license anyway.

Ya well, guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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"people", they're the worst...
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LOL, ain't that the truth. Really though, that was my whole point. So many people are just plain idiots, and those of us who aren't are made to abide by thousands of idiotic rules because of them.
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