Toronto/Oakland, Det/Cleveland thoughts?

[Pow]

haren has a 5.xx ERA against the jays this year... the jays are at home, coming off a home loss...

line is pretty much even...

what do you guys think?

[emv01]

I thought about playing it too..But like JML said its a coin flip and your better off to stay away all together..IMO

[Pow]

carmona vs jurrjens... line is -135... 95% of the public is on the indians...

what do you think?

[emv01]

Here are my thoughts..Keep it all in one thread..You keep creating useless threads..Start ONE thread and ask about all the games in there..

[Pow]

how are two threads about two different games considered useless?

[homedawg]

[emv01]

Why not keep them in one thread?

[dananderson32]

all i know is i watched the game on sunday................borowski K's the first two guys in the bottom of the 9th..........and still finds a way to blow the save and cleveland goes onto lose the game ........this guy is just straight up awful.........GO TRIBE!!!

[Pow]

i suppose i could, but how would anyone know that there were two different "thoughts" about two different games?

someone could be looking to play on cleveland, but not toronto, you know?

im not trying to be a dick, but its not like im wasting a bunch of space by putting up two different game threads...

anyway, i can put them in one thread next time... i didnt think it would cause this much commotion

[Pow]

Originally Posted by dananderson32

all i know is i watched the game on sunday................borowski K's the first two guys in the bottom of the 9th..........and still finds a way to blow the save and cleveland goes onto lose the game ........this guy is just straight up awful.........GO TRIBE!!!

the guy played for the cubs and he sucked there... i remember a streak of like 5 games where he blew save after save after save...

im so glad to be rid o him

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Originally Posted by Pow

haren has a 5.xx ERA against the jays this year...

He does???

I don't remember the Jays facing Haren this year.

I remember him owning us last year though...

[Low]

Heres some info I dug up....Hope it helps


McGowan-has struggled in night games (2-7, 5.59 ERA) as opposed to day games (6-0, 2.17 ERA), and Toronto is just 9-10 when he starts, including 2-10 at night.


Haren-now 13-4 with a 2.54 ERA on the season, and Oakland is 4-2 in his last six starts.Oakland is 4-1 when he pitches against Toronto, including three straight wins in Canada over the past two seasons.



Head-to-Head Series History
TORONTO is 2-2 (-0.2 Units) against OAKLAND this season
3 of 4 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL this season . (Over=+2.0 Units)

DAN HAREN vs. TORONTO since 1997
HAREN is 3-1 when starting against TORONTO with an ERA of 5.73 and a WHIP of 1.273.
His team's record is 4-1 (+2.6 units) in these starts. The OVER is 4-1. (+2.8 units)

DUSTIN MCGOWAN vs. OAKLAND since 1997
MCGOWAN is 1-1 when starting against OAKLAND with an ERA of 3.97 and a WHIP of 1.324.
His team's record is 1-1 (+0.1 units) in these starts. The OVER is 2-0. (+2.0 units)



Haren: 8-0 TSR vs. AL East


McGowan: Toronto 15-6 Under off 6+ home games



A's are 17-7 in Haren's last twenty-four starts.



McGowan is 0-2, 5.84 in his last couple starts.


Six of last seven Toronto home games stayed under total



Toronto won thirteen of its last eighteen home games.

A's are 5-2 in their last seven games.

[homedawg]

jays +100 or better, is worth a shot

[COACH DITKA]

Low - that's some good info you dug up there. You made me take another look at that game.

[Low]

Originally Posted by COACH DITKA

Low - that's some good info you dug up there. You made me take another look at that game.

Happy to help...