Steelers got screwed

[Bills Hooligan]

Originally Posted by Stifler's Mom

The way I see it, Romo came in right off the bat to QB a stacked team. A team that was supposed to be good and make the playoffs....which is exactly what they did. I see nothing special about what he did. So he's better than an aged Drew Bledsoe. Big deal...so is just about everyone.

As far as Romo running around and chucking it like Favre, I don't really see the relevance. Lots of guys have tried that style of play, but few have succeeded, especially against teams who are any good, like Favre was able to do.

I don't think Romo sucks by any means, but a top 3 or top 5 nfl qb, or even better than Ben? Not in my opinion.

Lets not forget Ben only has 4 years of nfl experience either, and the 2006 season was basically over before it started for him with the motorcycle accident and all, so really he doesn't have all that terribly much more nfl experience than romo, who has actually been in the league a year longer than ben, even if he hasn't been a starter the whole time and ben has actually physically played in more games.

they were supposed to make in 04 and 05 too and they didnt

Romo already has succeded in that style

Who are the 5 that are better? peyton/brady obv, just curious who you got ranked up there

based on last season id go
brady
peyton
carson (0 run game - defense)
Eli
Romo

[Bills Hooligan]

Originally Posted by Daws1089

Cuse is correct. There is no controversy. Mcnabb is the starter 100%. I'm not sure if you watched any of the eagles games towards the end of the season, but his mobility was actually pretty good. The first giants game and a few others he was still recoverying from the injury. The eagles do have enough cap room. They often save about 8-10 million in cap each year just to have. They never overspend and always have extra. Now, acquiring chad johnson? I sure hope not, however i guess he can be thrown into the mix. But what I've heard is Lito shepard won't be an eagle by the end of the month and I'm assuming he goes somewhere on draft day or in the near future. So far I've heard Roy williams of detroit and anquan boldin. Haven't heard Chad Johnson and he makes less sense since he has the loud mouth and Andy Reid doesn't go for that and throw in their experience with TO I say they don't go down that road.
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I watched 3 of their last 5, his mobility is not what it was when he was great, and too far from it to expect him to even be close to as good a player as he used to be if he didnt improve it in the offseason

I doubt you have to worry about chad. Highly doubt the bengals let him walk unless someone trades them a starting defense

[Daws1089]

what kind of mobility do you expect out of a 30 yr old?

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Originally Posted by Daws1089

what kind of mobility do you expect out of a 30 yr old?

30 yr old? lol...is that supposed to be old, hence less mobility?

[Daws1089]

All I'm saying is how can you expect a qb who came off a major knee injury that takes 12 months to recover from give or take to be as mobile as he was before the ankle injury and knee injury? It's not going to happen. Add in the fact that he still turned kevin curtis into a somebody with a bad knee. You can't write him off because of less mobility.

[NittanyLions94]

This is all I needed to read in the post after mine to realize the man knows not much about football:

"Palmer/Brees/Romo/Anderson all qbs id take easily before him, could even throw eli in there"

[Daws1089]

lol anderson before ben? i can't even respond to that.

[NittanyLions94]

Originally Posted by Daws1089

lol who the hell is anderson

Not positive, but I would guess it's the one that had 4 less TDs and 8 more INTs than Roethlisberger while attempting over 120 more passes, with a 10 point lower Comp%, and a lower yards/attempt.


Cause I can't find any other ones

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I'd take Brady, Manning and Palmer over Big Ben, but that's about it...but I seem to like him more than most...

[NittanyLions94]

Originally Posted by JohnnyMapleLeaf

I'd take Brady, Manning and Palmer over Big Ben, but that's about it...but I seem to like him more than most...

The only reason I'm more hesitant to take Palmer over him is due to the fact that Carson has had much better weapons throughout his career than Roethlisberger has ever had. He had Plex for 2 years early in his career, but other than that, he has never had a deep threat that can even clean CJ's jock. Hines is comparable to TJH in the posession category. I'd say that's a pretty good top 4 with the top 2 being interchangable and the bottom 2 being interchangable.

He gets put down because he got a label early on of being a "game manager." Which I think is pretty unfair considering he took the same team that went 6-10 the year before to a 15-1 record(the one loss was when Tommy Maddox was still under center). I'm not saying he did it all himself, but to say he did nothing but hand it off early in his career is ludicrous.

[Daws1089]

i agree nittany. as much as i hate dem stillers. people need to wake up. What meaningful game has palmer ever played in?

[Bills Hooligan]

Originally Posted by Daws1089

what kind of mobility do you expect out of a 30 yr old?

my point exactly

[Bills Hooligan]

Originally Posted by Daws1089

All I'm saying is how can you expect a qb who came off a major knee injury that takes 12 months to recover from give or take to be as mobile as he was before the ankle injury and knee injury? It's not going to happen. Add in the fact that he still turned kevin curtis into a somebody with a bad knee. You can't write him off because of less mobility.

not writing him off completely

but if he cant move better then last year hes going to have to learn to be a pocket passer, and if nothings open to get rid of the ball instead of trying to scramble, otherwise hes not going to have it

[Bills Hooligan]

Originally Posted by NittanyLions94

This is all I needed to read in the post after mine to realize the man knows not much about football:

"Palmer/Brees/Romo/Anderson all qbs id take easily before him, could even throw eli in there"

isnt a throw on the field anderson cant make
Hes got arm strength, height, touch and composure
less experience then all the other guys
he may not be as big a name now, but he will be

Romo, already explained

Put bees or palmer in bens place with an A defense and A run game and they both at a minimum make it out of the first round, though i doubt they would have to play the wildcard

eli helped lead his team to the superbowl, ben got taken for a ride


as for the laughing images, its my experience that people use those because they cant make valid counter points, but thats just me

Since "i know not much about football" (nice english, i realize its an internet forum and who realy cares about spelling, but you could try to put the words in the correct order)

Maybe we can have a contest this upcoming season, see who knows more

[Bills Hooligan]

Originally Posted by NittanyLions94

Not positive, but I would guess it's the one that had 4 less TDs and 8 more INTs than Roethlisberger while attempting over 120 more passes, with a 10 point lower Comp%, and a lower yards/attempt.


Cause I can't find any other ones

Yea, also the one with a D grade defense that caused him to have to consistantly play from behind

The one who had no run game so he had to operate a pass to run offense from behind and therefore force throws late in the game

The one who can play in all weather conditions and beat teams with more talent


As apposed to ben with an A grade defense that allowed him to consistantly play from ahead

The one who had one of the best run games in the league that allowed him to work in a run to pass offense (aka stacked box defense)

The one who when it rains couldnt hit shaq on a 10 yard crossing route and who lost to teams with less talent (AZ NYJ Nearly Cle too)


So yea, that anderson