My worst beat so far.. $500 :(

[USFMD82]

I been playing since June this year, at ou local casino and a trip to vegas (for a wedding with gambling thrown in) I just recently decided to do it online, and It seemed I was winning about 80% of the hands I played (beginners luck most definitely), So, I was doing great, thinking I was invincible.. so I venture into the $50/100 rooms, and I am holding my own, losing but then getting right back to my starting place. I am dealt 2 jacks, Flop J QQ I flopped a full house so naturally im gonna push as much into the pot as I can.. the guy to the left continually matches me.. what is he doing.. The pot works its way up to $575, then we show cards.. Pocket Queens... after that its been all downhill, I lost $500 being stupid today.. I think i will take a week long hiatus, Im still up a hundred from my staring bankroll, maybey ill study up on it a bit more, I still am primarily winning by luck, not skill, I knew it would catch up, and then my greed got the best of me..

[PaulM]

sounds like you were playing at too big of a table..i have the same problem..i dont care if all i have is 200 last thing i wanna do is play 1/2 nl one bad beat is all it takes and the whole things is gone.. the "rule" is something like you should be able to have 20 or 25 full buyins to know if you should play at that level which allows for variance..

[CuseFan10]

Wait, you were at a $50/$100 table you both flopped full boats and the pot was only up to $575?

Huh?

If you had pocket JJ you should have raised 3x the big to $300 and he would have called (if not raised) and the pot would have been over $600 with the blinds plus your bets right there before the flop even came.....

I'm confused.

[USFMD82]

It was fixed limit and i went all in (He could only match me at that point as it was just us) I don't remember how much each bet was i think i misused my words, the pot ended up being 575 after me and him went after it.. so do i just consider it a bad beat for what i put in the pot or how much the whole pot was, after that game i made stupid plays to try to regain the money id lost.. ended the night down $500 sorry for confusion,

anyone got some tips on sites that help you learn a good strategy, so far all ive had is luck, then oobviously bad luck, like is this whole pot odds and what not really that helpful?

[CuseFan10]

The best thing you can do is read books. And then play and get experience. Get "Supersystem" and/or "Supersystem 2" by Doyle Brunson. There are a ton of really good poker books out there that you can learn A LOT from. Dan Harrington has one, Negreneu has one, Mike Caro has one, etc etc...

If you are looking for advice my honest assessment would be that you had no business being at a $50/$100 table in the first place. I'm not saying that to be mean but it seems like the truth. To play at a $50/$100 table you need to have a ton of money with you (playing one hand would minimally be near a $1000-1500), and that's why I still don't know if you are explaining it wrong or what but there's no way a $50/$100 limit table where both guys went all in ended up with a $575 pot. The pot would be higher than that pre-flop as you both would have been raising.

As for how you played it (which is hard decipher if you don't tell us how and what you bet), the honest truth is that no one in the world is folding your hand. It's not possible. You flopped a boat and just got unlucky that he had a bigger one. There really and truly is nothing you could have done, as even world class poker pros aren't laying that down. It's not even a "bad beat", it's just bad luck for you.

GL with your game bud!!!! Get a book and read that bad boy!!!!

[USFMD82]

Ok Ill check those out, yeah, I know now I had no business being in that room, The pot was at that level because before the flop me and him where the only 2 going (might help if I had laid out there were only 4 players at the table) we kept raising each other until I was all in which after the flop I was all in after the first raise

[Shamrock]

First thing to learn is what a bad beat really is.

I know losing a big hand when you flop a boat is really tough, but the man that won flopped four of a kind! I mean, thats remarkable. I have been playing for years and only held FOAK maybe 6 or 7 times.

A true BAD beat is when you have someone dead in the water and then they suck out a low percentage card on 4th or 5th.

I recommend playing tournaments online for a little. there are some $35 tournamnets on bodog i play in. The competition is decent, and trust me, its better to play against better players. That might not make sense, but better players know when to fold and they are more predictable because they have patterns. Bad players dont know what the fuck they are doing so they are wild and unpredictable and usually hand out bad beats becuase they suck out when their 98 suited flops a straight and you have KK.

I play 6 man, 38 dollar buy in, usually takes an hour. I wouldnt play anything lower because thats where the true donkeys play and they are all-in machines.


Also, if you are going to play in a cash game, the standard rule of thumb is to have 25 times the big blind on you. So the 50/100, you would bring 2500. And even thats low. my buddies and i play 5/10 and everyone there has 500-600 on them.

So i guess my advice is to play those touneys to hone your skills at a low-risk, high reward environment and like cuse said, READ READ READ. Sklansky's Theory of Poker and Brunson and Greenstein are must reads........

gl on the felt..........

sham.........

[CuseFan10]

Sklansky... I knew there was one other "Bible" type read for poker and I couldn't think of his name.

All good advice.

[DevilsAdvokt]

My advice to you is deposit $100 bucks when you can....


play guarenteed prize pool tourney's with low buy in's



i play over at vg 24/7 and they have like $1-3 tourneys with unli rebuys for first hour...
i dont rebuy but i play them as do some prize pools get in the 8-9000 dollar pot range
first takes home about 2g's so for 3 dollar investment pretty fun...

playing alot of these gives you great poker experience for the online game and is alot of fun.... you dont risk alot and pretty soon you start to find your self finding that you are making the money every 2-3 tourneys.... givin you dont hit a cold streak of cards...



Best advice anyone has every given me for online poker and which has work for me to this day is lower your risk and higher your reward ratio and most of all be PATIENT! your good cards will come and when they do play em everytime...


Good Luck man

[Underdog88]

Originally Posted by Shamrock

its better to play against better players. That might not make sense, but better players know when to fold and they are more predictable because they have patterns. Bad players dont know what the fuck they are doing so they are wild and unpredictable and usually hand out bad beats becuase they suck out when their 98 suited flops a straight and you have KK.

So true... I was playing a home game last night with a couple bad players. I was dealt AK suited & had 3 calls in front so I bumped it 5x pot size. I get one call, the flop comes A, 3, 9 rainbow. I get raised, but I don't think this guy has a pair, so I push all in. This guy calls me so quickly & flips over a Q 2 offsuit. I nearly laugh in his face.... then 4, 5 fall


I don't even know what you would call that!

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

That is totally not a "bad beat" lol.
bad luck...

[CuseFan10]

Originally Posted by JohnnyMapleLeaf

That is totally not a "bad beat" lol.
bad luck...

Umm, that (UDogg's hand) would be the epitome of a "bad beat". Some donkey that never should have been in the hand in the first place is about 7% to win on after the flop, and then after CALLING a pre-flop 5x pot raise, again CALLS and all-in (with NOTHING), and then hits runner runner to win the pot.

B-A-D B-E-A-T... BAD BEAT. It really can't get much worse that that. A bad beat is quite simple to define really, it's when you put your money in (correctly) ahead and you lose the hand. That's a bad beat.

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

i was talking about the original post by USF, Cuse....didn't read UD's post...

[NittanyLions94]

The bad beat that caused me to stop playing online poker was at Full Tilt. I was all-in for the last amount of my money with trip K's. I had KK, flop was something like K-10-5, guy calls me with pocket 9's. I think we can all see what's coming, running 9's to quad the guy up and take the rest of my money. Full Tilt gave me a shitload of bad beats(that one was just the last straw), but I also had a buddy that put on $50 and turned it into $5000 in a few weeks, truly remarkable stuff there.