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Old 08-08-2008, 12:50 PM
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let me guess you still think hes a Muslim too ? ............its ok since your a tribe fan ill give you a pass


Obama’s Muslim Connection Won’t Go Away
Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:15 PM
By: Jim Meyers

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s ties to Islam is a story line that is not going away, according to a recent analysis by the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
“Rumors that Barack Obama was a secret Muslim whose patriotism was questionable first appeared on blogs and in e-mail messages,” PJE noted.
“In March, the rumors began to show up in the press, though only minimally.”
PJE’s News Coverage Index found that media reports about these rumors accounted for 0.4 percent of the “campaign newshole” from mid-March to mid-April.
But coverage has steadily increased since then, and accounted for 3.8 percent of the campaign news from mid-June to mid-July.
Obama has denied he is a Muslim or ever was a practicing Muslim.
The basis of the “rumor” germinates with Obama’s father, who was a Muslim, though Obama claims he was non-practicing. Adding to the mix is Obama’s full name, Barack Hussein Obama, which is an Arabic name.
Obama’s biological father disappeared from his son’s life soon after he was born and returned to his native Kenya.
Obama’s Kansas-born mother and her second husband, an Indonesian who was also a Muslim, moved from Hawaii to Jakarta, Indonesia’s capital, in 1967. Obama lived there from ages 6 to 10.
Reports dating back as far as early 2007 held that Obama was educated at a radical Islamic school in Indonesia.
Press accounts revealed that in fact, Obama first attended a Catholic school for almost three years. However, his mother registered him in the school as a Muslim.
Some press reports indicated that Obama attended a radical madrasa, a school for radical Islamics. But that story was found to be untrue.
In the wake of that controversy, the Los Angeles Times sent a reporter to Jakarta to ferret out the truth.
The Times report, published on March 16, 2008, revealed:
• A close boyhood friend of Obama, Zulfin Adi, said Barack "was a Muslim. He went to the mosque."
• Obama's first-grade teacher at a Catholic school, Israella Dharmawan, said: "Barry (Barack's nickname) was Muslim. He was registered as a Muslim because his father was Muslim."
• In the third grade, Obama transferred to a public school, where he was also registered as a Muslim. At the school, Muslim students attended weekly religion lessons about Islam.
Some of these details have been confirmed by Obama himself. In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Koran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
Earlier this year, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs claimed: "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."
But the facts suggest that statement is not exactly true.
Middle East Forum director Daniel Pipes wrote on FrontPageMag.com that his research led him to conclude that "Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian stepfather."
After the Los Angeles Times conducted its own investigation, Gibbs amended his previous statement on behalf of Obama, telling the Los Angeles Times: "Obama has never been a practicing Muslim," the key word being "practicing."
After the Los Angeles Times report, Obama’s hometown newspaper, the Chicago Tribune, came to his rescue, publishing its own story about Obama’s Indonesian years less than two weeks after the Times report.
The Tribune said they had re-interviewed Obama’s boyhood friend Adi. He told the Tribune he was not sure Obama had been a practicing Muslim. The Tribune also claimed it conducted “interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends” — all who indicated that Obama “was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia.'"
Despite heated denials — perhaps fueled by his attendance at Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakan’s Million Man March — doubts linger about Obama’s religious status.
For example, The New Yorker magazine’s recent controversial cover depicting Obama in traditional Muslim clothing — sandals, robe and turban – reflects those doubts.
The PJE’s News Coverage Index examines about four dozen news outlets to determine what is being covered and what is not.
Many of the news accounts surrounding this story have reported stories debunking the belief that Obama was or still is a Muslim. Nevertheless, a recent poll by the Pew Research Center found that 12 percent of respondents believed the candidate is a Muslim.
Poll results released in mid-July by Newsweek magazine showed that 26 percent of respondents believe Obama was sworn in as a U.S. senator on a Koran, 26 percent believe he was raised as a Muslim, and 39 percent believe he attended an Islamic school as a child growing up in Indonesia.
While rebuffing reports of his ties to Islam, Obama has insisted there is “nothing wrong” with being a Muslim.
But any perceived link between Obama and Islam could be detrimental to his campaign, polls show.
A survey by Fox News/Opinion Dynamics conducted when Mitt Romney, a Mormon, was a Republican presidential candidate found that 32 percent of voters said they would be less likely to vote for a presidential candidate who is Mormon — while 45 percent said they would be less likely to vote for a Muslim.
And a poll by the Pew Research Center disclosed that 35 percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of Muslims.




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Election '08: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says America "will be fine" under Barack Obama. While respecting a busy diplomat's wish to keep out of presidential politics, she couldn't be more mistaken.

Is the secretary of state auditioning for a post-government career with an all-girl pop group? Telling Politico and Yahoo News that "Oh, the United States will be fine" under a President Obama sounded more like the infatuated lyrics of the Chiffons' 1963 number-one hit "He's So Fine" than the sober reflections of a member of the president's cabinet.
"That handsome boy over there" the Bronx songbirds swooned over, for whom "it's just a matter of time," is a good description of Obama as seen by the Washington political establishment and the national media elite. But as Americans learn more about the Illinois senator, the illusions of inevitability melt away.
The latest alarm bell sounded on Monday when Obama's Arab and Muslim liaison, Mazen Asbahi, was forced to resign, after serving barely nine days, when links to a radical imam became public.
Asbahi, a Chicago lawyer, apparently sat on the board in 2000 of the Allied Assets Advisors Fund, an affiliate of the North American Islamic Trust, along with Jamal Said. Said is imam of an extremist Chicago-area mosque who raised money for accused fundraisers of the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas and was named an unindicted co-conspirator with defendants accused of funneling millions to Hamas suicide bombers and their families.
According to former CNN reporter Steven Emerson in his 1994 book "American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us," two Hamas operatives belonging to Said's Bridgeview Mosque "were arrested in Israel for transferring money from the United States to terrorists on the West Bank. One of these men, Mohammad Jarad, told the Israelis that he was sent on his mission by Jamal Said."
Emerson visited Said's mosque and described vestibule walls "covered with Hamas posters and recruiting literature showing masked gunmen brandishing automatic weapons" and "daggers plunged into Jewish hearts wrapped up in American flags."
In 2004 the Chicago Tribune reported that Abdullah Azzam, Osama bin Laden's spiritual mentor, had visited Said's mosque in the mid-1980s to recruit supporters for the Afghan resistance.
The Tribune noted that the charismatic Said collects "as much as $1 million in a year from worshipers." It also reported that "he raised money at one national Islamic conference by asking people to donate in the memory of a Palestinian suicide bomber."
No one knows the dangers that Islamist terror states pose better than Condi Rice. She can't really believe that under Barack Obama — unable to keep someone linked to an accused terrorist financier out of his own campaign — America "will be fine."
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fuck both of them..........flip flopping mother fuckers..............i want HD for president
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"The things that the flag stands for were
created by the experiences of a great people.
Everything that it stands for was written by
their lives.
The flag is the embodiment, not of sentiment, but of history."
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If you're not proud
to be an American
why bother to salute
the Flag?
No matter that many have died for what that flag symbolizes.
But this is going to be a time for "Change." No more such outmoded passions as patriotism.
It's going to be a new world.
Should you--can you--trust this man?













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That's such a crock of shit! Rush Limbaugh!?!? Does anyone really take this guy serious anymore??? Why tell anyone (7 years old or whatever) that this country is great when it's anything but the truth! That's our problem, patting ourselves on the back when the these fat fuck political wannabes tell us everything is a-ok! Why people would put their political trust into a man so overrated and so manipulative is beyond me!

AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MIND! OBAMA OR MCCAIN....REASEARCH THE PROS AND CONS AND THEN MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND! DON'T LET ANYONE PERSUADE YOUR POLITICAL OPINIONS!

I hate to say it, but I believe the American people are too fucking stupid to have the right/power to pick the leader of our nation! America has produced a generation of people-watchers who are lazy, uneducated and simply unmotivated to reasearch the right candidate for the presidency! They listen to friends, ignorant family members, blow-hard radio hosts, etc... to form their opinion instead of forming it themselves!

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"America is, is no longer, uh, what it could be, what it, it once was,
And I say to myself, I don't want that future for my children."
B. Hussein Obama


When was the USA ever what it could be? Was it 10, 20, 30, 40, 50years ago,
or has it been longer than that?


How does a 7yr old take that statement? Could she be thinking that if Obama loses,
America will never be what it could be, for her children?

This is just another example of a guy that does not like the USA,
and neither does his wife!







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That's such a crock of shit! Rush Limbaugh!?!? Does anyone really take this guy serious anymore??? Why tell anyone (7 years old or whatever) that this country is great when it's anything but the truth! That's our problem, patting ourselves on the back when the these fat fuck political wannabes tell us everything is a-ok! Why people would put their political trust into a man so overrated and so manipulative is beyond me!

AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE UP THEIR OWN MIND! OBAMA OR MCCAIN....REASEARCH THE PROS AND CONS AND THEN MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND! DON'T LET ANYONE PERSUADE YOUR POLITICAL OPINIONS!

I hate to say it, but I believe the American people are too fucking stupid to have the right/power to pick the leader of our nation! America has produced a generation of people-watchers who are lazy, uneducated and simply unmotivated to reasearch the right candidate for the presidency! They listen to friends, ignorant family members, blow-hard radio hosts, etc... to form their opinion instead of forming it themselves!

This isn't a knock on you HD...just a vent!


could not have said it any better myself ..............and HD your whole platform of no experience obama is pretty weak and useless if you ask me
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and HD your whole platform of no experience obama is pretty weak and useless if you ask me
My platform on osama is NO PATRIOTISM!







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IMO, the left, chose the bad apple in the bunch! Coulda had:


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