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Old 11-21-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default vargas vs mayorga 11/23

Fri 11/23 122 Fernando Vargas -180 O 9½ +125

10:00PM (EST) 123 Ricardo Mayorga +140 U 9½ -165
this one i need to poll the cappers,because i have no clue...... V3???
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:07 PM
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Don't bother... Here's good article, IMO. Vargas wins easily IMHO and I'll lay the 1.8 to win 1 most likely tonight or tomorrow before it goes up up up... but v3 definitely knows more than me so maybe he can chime in. I alos thnik Vargas KO's him, but we shall see.

Bad Left Hook :: A Boxing Blog (some absolutely hysterical quotes from Vargas towards the bottom of the article)
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:53 PM
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This one is a tough one, that's why I haven't been talking about it...but I made up my mind earlier today.

This is a 12 round fight, and the O/U is set at 9.5 and even though the Under is favored (-150) I am leaning a bit towards the Over (+120). Vargas has been KO'd by people who with speed. DLH, Mosley (twice), and Trinindad. 3 of those 4 KO's he has had came AFTER 9.5 Mayorga doesnt have speed nor precision, he would literally have to catch Vargas on a major screw up to KO him. So Mayorga KO'ing Vargas under 9.5 is off the list in my book, in regards of what is likely to happen.

Mayorga has been KO'd twice (3 times if you count his first fight in 1993, which I am not). Those were both by people with speed and prcision (DLH & Trinidad) which I cant give Vargas the speed factor, but wont go so far as downgrading him on precision.

I think all the hype and hatred is causing everyone to bite the Under, but thats just my opinion. If anyone gets KO'd it will be Vargas, but that's only if he slips up.

Mayorga definately cannot outbox Vargas so Mayorga by decision is a little ludicrous in my mind, unless he gets 2 knockdowns.

I like Vargas, and if he does KO Mayorga it will be late. No way he does this early, no way in hell. If the KO comes it will be rounds 8 through 11, if it comes at all.

They are both warriors so I dont see anyone quiting on their stool. Both Righties so head clashes aren't as likely (than an orthodox and a southpaw), so we are fairly clear with cut stoppages on head butts.

This is in Vargas's backyard too, LA CA. About a 40 mile drive from Oxnard (Vargas home town).

I rolling with Vargas/Over, but I wont be too shocked if he does KO him in 8 or 9. Vargas is a paced fighter so it will have to be an accumulation of punches, he doesnt have the power to one shot KO Mayorga (which Mayorgas KO's have come by accumulation).

So thats me, Vargas/Over 9.5

Probably a parlay, not sure yet...but more than likely.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:48 PM
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thanks guys for the input, may place a small wager on vargas
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:23 AM
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I'll be in for 2 UNITS on Vargas, -180.

I really don't see this being much of a contest. I definitely agree with v3 about throwing out Mayorga by decision. I think Vargas could knock Mayorga out at any given time since Mayorga is bound to do something stupid. Guessing what round he does it in I'll pass on so no play of the stoppage possibilities for me.

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I parlayed Vargas -190 with Over 9.5 +130
1 Unit

Vargas looks ripped though, like when he fought DLH. They better test his ass afterwards.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:53 PM
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YouTube - Ricardo Mayorga


YouTube - Ricardo "El Matador" Mayorga
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I still can't believe Mayorga get a decision win over Forrest in their second fight. That fight could have gone either way, I though Forrest won, and Forrest thought he was robbed...but just the fact that he go a 12 round dec against him was amazing.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:57 PM
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Vargas was -170 on sportsbook.com before but now has spiked to -200.
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for whats it worth, I put 108 on Vargas to Get back 60. got him at -180 this morning. Just enough to make it interesting. Should be a good card!
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I was going to take Mayorga, but I don't even think I'm going to bet now.
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Anyone have a good place for updates during this? I'm obvioously NOT paying to watch these two money grab fuckers.. It's ridiculous it's on PPV with only this fight and Kermit Cintron 's probable obliteration at -5000.
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Here you go.

FIGHTHYPE \\ ROUND BY ROUND
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I had to throw something on Mayorga at +160. We will see what happens.
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Omg I Wish I Bet More The Matador Is Taking This Shit Down.
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