Wrestlemania 23 Betting

[JB]

I guranatee these Wrestling lines are maxed out at $500 or less.....otherwise, obvisouly they could lose their ass. Vince McMahon could just put everything he has on one side and obvisouly be right.

[Stifler's Mom]

Originally Posted by JB

Thanks GM!

I would guess its pretty obvious that Vince McMahon will go bald at WrestleMania! I think its intresting that both Shawn Michaels AND Undertaker are both favored in their matches.

Other odds....

Money In The Bank Ladder Match
Randy Orton +200
Edge +250
Mr. Kennedy +300
CM Punk +700
King Booker +800
Jeff Hardy +2000
Fit Finley +5000
Matt Hardy +8000

US Title Match
Chris Benoit -200
MVP +170

Women's Title Match
Melina +130
Ashley -150

Grudge Match
Kane -300
Great Khali +240

8-Man Tag Match
ECW -160
New Breed +130

Where are you getting these? I only can find the 3 listed near the top

[Stifler's Mom]

Originally Posted by JB

I guranatee these Wrestling lines are maxed out at $500 or less.....otherwise, obvisouly they could lose their ass. Vince McMahon could just put everything he has on one side and obvisouly be right.

My guess would be that McMahon is in on this. He has always been a leader, an innovative guy, and, well, greedy for MORE money, however he can make it.

He obvisouly cannot legally take a share of the profits from the sportsbook, but my guess it's that it's probably a ploy to get more people to buy Mrestlemania # whatever it is now, therefore putting money in his pockets.

In exchange for 5 Dimes offering the lines and getting many of "us" to buy the PPV for the outrageous price of probably about $50 by now, who would never waste our money on a wrestling PPV otherwise, Vince guarantees 5 Dimes a profit, by obviously making the outcomes suitable to them in more cases than not.

There's no other way 5 Dimes could risk offering lines on something like this, since obviously there are those who know who is going to win, and therefore could make a bundle betting on those guys. Not necessarily McMahon, since a max wager of a few hundred or a few thousand bucks means shit to him, but i'm talking WWE employees. Guys who aren't loaded. Especially the "jobbers" who get their asses kicked continuously by the bigger names, and don't make millions of bucks doing it, and other employees like truck drivers, the dudes who set up the ring, sound guys, etc. The matches are rehearsed beforehand, and I'm sure it's no secret to these guys who's gonna win in plenty of time to get some wagers in....

[JB]

Originally Posted by Stifler's Mom

Where are you getting these? I only can find the 3 listed near the top

The other lines are actually posted at Imperial Palace in Las Vegas. Obvisouly can't access them without being in Vegas...just thought I would post them anyway.

[Stifler's Mom]

Oh, so it's not just 5 dimes offering lines on this? Interesting.....

Kinda messes up my theory, although I still don't see how they could get away with offering lines on something where the outcome is so obviously fixed. I would suppose small limits/no parlaying would be the only real answer, so someone who knows what was going to happen couldn't really hurt them with small straight bets....

[CuseFan10]

Originally Posted by GamblinMan03

1.5 years, i doubt that but they have been known to change things last minute. I read somewhere that they have gone back and forth on who wins a few of those matches, especially the Taker match.

Why must you always be difficult? The guy told me to my face that the story lines are planned out over a year in advance. Why would he lie? He's lived next store to my best friend his whole life so I really don't think he's going to lie about something so insignificant to a family friend. I'm not saying things haven't been changed since I was in college, and maybe they don't decide who wins until a few weeks prior, but the story lines are done WELL in advance as the guy told me.

Geez....

[GamblinMan03]

Originally Posted by CuseFan10

Why must you always be difficult? The guy told me to my face that the story lines are planned out over a year in advance. Why would he lie? He's lived next store to my best friend his whole life so I really don't think he's going to lie about something so insignificant to a family friend. I'm not saying things haven't been changed since I was in college, and maybe they don't decide who wins until a few weeks prior, but the story lines are done WELL in advance as the guy told me.

Geez....

Well im sure they throw ideas out there 1.5 years in advance what they want to go, its the only logical thing to do. And yes, I cant see how they pick the winners on a week to week basis. Maybe they decide on a major storyline or two a year in advance, but every little thing? No way, cant see it. Too much changes in wrestling on a week to week and month by month basis.

I have read plenty of the past couple months that they have went back and forth on who they want to win the two major titles.

Cuse, its my job to be difficult, you should know that by now.

[NittanyLions94]

Is it good or bad that I have not a clue who one of those idiots is that is listed on the card?

[Stifler's Mom]

LOL, I only know a few. I stopped watching wrestling years ago. I was a big ECW fan back in the day (used to go to local shows since i'm in the Philly area), but the watered down version Vince puts on TV now just isn't the same. I was also at one time a big WWF fan, but again, the "sport" has changed so much as to where either you just have to be juiced on roids and/or have some skills on the mic and you're a contender. I liked the older WWF far better. Maybe it's just cause I'm getting older, who knows.

In any case, my brother is a pretty big wrestling fan, and he said Mr Kennedy or Randy Orton are most likely to win the ladder match, and that CM Punk could be a sleeper. The big dogs, according to him, have no chance....a point to which I agree. Where would the story go if Matt Hardy won? Or Fit Finley? Seriously. The Hardys are just in there IMO to provide some entertainment, and Fit Finley is just in there to take a beating.

He also brought up about UT never losing at a WM. I personally see no reason why he would take a match in which he had to lose and ruin his undefeated streak at WM, in what will probably be his last WM. I think UT -195 is a solid bet. From a fans stanpoint, to see an "icon" like UT lose at WM would sorta ruin the PPV....and his legacy. I could see UT winning by DQ in that match, not getting the title, but still getting the win.

I also like Cena to retain the title against Michaels. When HHH comes back from his injury, he will probably once again want the title back, so unless they're gonna have him turn on Michaels, it doesn't make alot of sense to give the belt to Michaels. Unless it's just to job it to some other heel that HHH will eventually beat upon his return, but that also seems unlikely, for a big name guy like Michaels to win the title and then drop it almost immediately.

Also something to keep in mind....from what I remember, WM was usually the PPV of the "faces", or good guys. It's the biggest one of the year, and the one the most people watch. Seems in the past most of the matches have ended how the fans wanted (good guy winning), almost like giving them a result they want as a reward for watching and buying these PPV's for a whole year. I'm talking about in the bigger matches....not necessarily the undercards. This is another reason I don't see UT losing....like I said, the fans won't like it, and I dont see any reason why he would take a match at WM that he had to lose and ruin his undefeated at WM legacy. I'm sure he's the only guy who can say he's not lost at WM, and he'd probably like to keep it that way. I doubt money is a factor with him, and I am sure that after all this time and success, he has to have some creative control over his character, so I doubt a bigger payday would make him agree to losing.

I believe I'll be playing on The Undertaker to win....not sure about anyone else.

[GamblinMan03]

WWE - Wrestlemania 23 - Battle of the Billionaires - Ford Field, Detroit, Michigan - PPV
Sun 4/1 901 Bobby Lashley with Donald Trump -2000
7:30PM (EST) 902 Umaga with Vince McMahon +1000
WWE - Wrestlemania 23 - World Heavyweight Title - Ford Field, Detroit, Michigan - PPV
Sun 4/1 903 The Undertaker -350
7:30PM (EST) 904 Dave "The Animal" Batista +250
WWE - Wrestlemania 23 - WWE Title - Ford Field, Detroit, Michigan - PPV
Sun 4/1 905 Shawn Michaels -150
7:30PM (EST) 906 John Cena +110

[Stifler's Mom]

Undertaker

Cena won too