Steelers got screwed

[Ming the Merciless]

yea itspretty debatable i'd say. Faneca was the punk who claimed he wasn't going to play for the steelers after this year so why would they be loyal?

And I'll start giving Romo some credit when he wins his team a playoff game. 0-2

You hit the nail on the head. At least he ain't as old as Testy and Bledsoe.

[Ming the Merciless]

WHAT THE **** EVER, TRY BEING A LIONS FAN:bang: :bang: :bang:

Or a Michigan fan, huh?

[Bills Hooligan]

Im not trying to say hes garbage, somewhere in her i said hes good just not amongst the elite yet

Yes he did ok, but again the opposing defenses were taking away their strenth which was their run game

Pits
Points Scored 9th
points allowed 3rd
Rush Yrds 5th
pass yards 24th

Defense and run game carried that team

Big players play big in big games
9/21(43%) 123 yards 0td 2int

[CuseFan10]

manning his team to the superbowl, ben got taken for a ride

Pretty selective memory, IMHO. Yea Ben played terrible in the Super Bowl but he played great in the other playoff games and dominated Denver in the AFC Championship Game. He was 9-3 in the regular season as a starter and won 4 straight playoff games on the road after that to win the Super Bowl - you make it sound as if he made no significant contributions at all and that's just incorrect.

[Bills Hooligan]

The Browns averaged 118 rush YPG, so I'm not sure where you're getting the info that they couldn't run the ball.


And as for your last statement, if I remember correct, in a rain game against Baltimore, Ben threw 4 TDs in the first half. And when the **** did it rain against Arizona :laughing:


This stuff is funny though, so keep it coming, I need a good laugh at each intermission.



Ya got me there.

But other than that, you are pretty damn funny. :laughing: :laughing:

I didnt say it rained against AZ, work on reading when your done with the writing

Cinci home game he couldnt have hit an 18wheeler if you put it 20 yards away from him
32 Atempts 21 Completions Yrds 185 Avg 5.8 2td 2int

Not to mention schedule cinci2x, oak, miami, stl, nyj, buf
They play a good run d like pit rush plays 16 avg 2.9
Poor run D like buf rush plays 37 avg 4.7

Im runing out of ways to say this. Cle had a pass to run offense. Therefore anderson had to prove he could throw it against them so the box would not be stacked so they would be able to run the ball. You cant simply look at a stat and say they had a run game, you have to look at the scenario under which it came. Also factor in how much time their offense spent with the ball since their defense was horrible.


I dont get onto these things to dis people, quite immature, but since its clear you attempt to (practice this after writing and reading) I would like to say its fairly obvious you do not know nearly as much about football as you think you do.

There are more to stats then the numbers themselves, you have to annalyze the situations. If football was all stats every gambler would be rich and every bookie broke.

[NittanyLions94]

Yea, also the one with a D grade defense that caused him to have to consistantly play from behind

The one who had no run game so he had to operate a pass to run offense from behind and therefore force throws late in the game

The one who can play in all weather conditions and beat teams with more talent


As apposed to ben with an A grade defense that allowed him to consistantly play from ahead

The one who had one of the best run games in the league that allowed him to work in a run to pass offense (aka stacked box defense)

The one who when it rains couldnt hit shaq on a 10 yard crossing route and who lost to teams with less talent (AZ NYJ Nearly Cle too)


So yea, that anderson

The Browns averaged 118 rush YPG, so I'm not sure where you're getting the info that they couldn't run the ball.


And as for your last statement, if I remember correct, in a rain game against Baltimore, Ben threw 4 TDs in the first half. And when the **** did it rain against Arizona :laughing:


This stuff is funny though, so keep it coming, I need a good laugh at each intermission.

Since "i know not much about football" (nice english, i realize its an internet forum and who realy cares about spelling, but you could try to put the words in the correct order)

Ya got me there.

But other than that, you are pretty damn funny. :laughing: :laughing:

[Bills Hooligan]

Not positive, but I would guess it's the one that had 4 less TDs and 8 more INTs than Roethlisberger while attempting over 120 more passes, with a 10 point lower Comp%, and a lower yards/attempt.


Cause I can't find any other ones :laughing:

Yea, also the one with a D grade defense that caused him to have to consistantly play from behind

The one who had no run game so he had to operate a pass to run offense from behind and therefore force throws late in the game

The one who can play in all weather conditions and beat teams with more talent


As apposed to ben with an A grade defense that allowed him to consistantly play from ahead

The one who had one of the best run games in the league that allowed him to work in a run to pass offense (aka stacked box defense)

The one who when it rains couldnt hit shaq on a 10 yard crossing route and who lost to teams with less talent (AZ NYJ Nearly Cle too)


So yea, that anderson

[Bills Hooligan]

This is all I needed to read in the post after mine to realize the man knows not much about football:

"Palmer/Brees/Romo/Anderson all qbs id take easily before him, could even throw eli in there"


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

isnt a throw on the field anderson cant make
Hes got arm strength, height, touch and composure
less experience then all the other guys
he may not be as big a name now, but he will be

Romo, already explained

Put bees or palmer in bens place with an A defense and A run game and they both at a minimum make it out of the first round, though i doubt they would have to play the wildcard

eli helped lead his team to the superbowl, ben got taken for a ride


as for the laughing images, its my experience that people use those because they cant make valid counter points, but thats just me

Since "i know not much about football" :laughing: (nice english, i realize its an internet forum and who realy cares about spelling, but you could try to put the words in the correct order)

Maybe we can have a contest this upcoming season, see who knows more

[Bills Hooligan]

All I'm saying is how can you expect a qb who came off a major knee injury that takes 12 months to recover from give or take to be as mobile as he was before the ankle injury and knee injury? It's not going to happen. Add in the fact that he still turned kevin curtis into a somebody with a bad knee. You can't write him off because of less mobility.

not writing him off completely

but if he cant move better then last year hes going to have to learn to be a pocket passer, and if nothings open to get rid of the ball instead of trying to scramble, otherwise hes not going to have it

[Bills Hooligan]

what kind of mobility do you expect out of a 30 yr old?

my point exactly

[Daws1089]

i agree nittany. as much as i hate dem stillers. people need to wake up. What meaningful game has palmer ever played in?

[NittanyLions94]

I'd take Brady, Manning and Palmer over Big Ben, but that's about it...but I seem to like him more than most...

The only reason I'm more hesitant to take Palmer over him is due to the fact that Carson has had much better weapons throughout his career than Roethlisberger has ever had. He had Plex for 2 years early in his career, but other than that, he has never had a deep threat that can even clean CJ's jock. Hines is comparable to TJH in the posession category. I'd say that's a pretty good top 4 with the top 2 being interchangable and the bottom 2 being interchangable.

He gets put down because he got a label early on of being a "game manager." Which I think is pretty unfair considering he took the same team that went 6-10 the year before to a 15-1 record(the one loss was when Tommy Maddox was still under center). I'm not saying he did it all himself, but to say he did nothing but hand it off early in his career is ludicrous.

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I'd take Brady, Manning and Palmer over Big Ben, but that's about it...but I seem to like him more than most...

[NittanyLions94]

lol who the hell is anderson

Not positive, but I would guess it's the one that had 4 less TDs and 8 more INTs than Roethlisberger while attempting over 120 more passes, with a 10 point lower Comp%, and a lower yards/attempt.


Cause I can't find any other ones :laughing:

[Daws1089]

lol anderson before ben? i can't even respond to that.