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  • DukiesBaby
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    Originally posted by Oracle
    Are they the defense that has shown up recently or the one that had zero sacks early in the season?

    Is Romo the quarterback he has been the last few games or the guy who threw three picks in that Giants loss and has choked consistently in big games over the last few years?

    Are they the team that almost lost to 0-4 Kansas City and were down 10-0 at half or the team that dismantled the Falcons?


    Really this is how u gonna break up a team and say inconsistent... i could do that to every team in the nfl... am i gonna get the randy moss who catches 3 td's this week, am i gonna get the randy moss who get 0 td's... am i gonna get the eagles def who got 5 picks vs delhome or the eagle def that gave up 30+ points to the saints???

    dude its called matchups.... teams play good and bad each week based on their opponent, and forget roy williams comment, what does he know he has looked consistent to me more than any other wr i have seen all year... he straight up cant help his team at all, kinda like the lions....


    colts were blowing people out left and right but could only muster up less than a td wins vs 49ers and jags???

    no team in the nfl plays consistent week in and week out (except 2007 patriots) but thats a team on a whole different planet!

    anyway you look at it or try and bring the cowboys down they are still 6-2, they won as many games as they could in front of them.

    cowboys have 6 wins...
    loss number 1 vs nyg

    giants win TOP 34:49 to dal 25:11

    turnovers Giants 0 Dallas 4

    def td's Giants 1 Dallas 0

    Giants win all 3 of these categories and it still takes them a fg with time expiring to win the game?


    there 2nd loss came in denver 17-10... dallas led this game 10-0 and also had a chance to tie at end of the game with 4 plays from in side the 10 yard line...


    they could have easily been 8-0 as they are 6-2 now....

    just saying they are not that inconsistant... they beat a good eagle team at home to last week in primetime....

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  • Stifler's Mom
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    Originally posted by hodown
    GB's o-line may not be good but in the NFL I like to play good situational spots and this is one. If we're going to say Team A is better than Team B so they're going to cover, then faves would cover every game. But it's the NFL and atleast 20 teams are capable, especially at home, of pulling off an upset. Hell, the Bears beat Pitt at home earlier this year and they look like absolute ****, so anything can happen.

    Cinci @ Pitt -7
    Pick the winner here. Pitt coming in off a short week hurts, but I don't think they can afford to lose two games to Cinci. Should be another emotionally charged game and I like the home team. They looked damn good in the second half of the Denver game, and the books are making you pay to take -7 but I'll bite.
    I agree with all of what you said, and I also think Pitt absolutely steamrolls the Bungles this week. Pittsburgh looks to me like the best team in the NFL right now. They're not winning with smoke and mirrors, but rather dominating physically, stifling the run, running themselves, and Ben looks as good as ANYONE back there in the pocket. Of course that could change anytime, but I really really like what I've seen out of them lately. They look every bit like the team who won the superbowl last year to me, and actually even better cause Mendenhall has been a savior since coming in at RB and for whatever reason their ground game has really gotten rolling.

    Add revenge for that earlier season mishap, and the Bungles, who have earned much respect this year or this line would be double digits, taste defeat this week.

    Books pulling in as much CIN money as they can giving the TD, but like you said, pick the winner :thumbs:

    Honestly, I think there is sharp money on PIT and it will be -7.5 or -8 by game time if the public makes any indication that they are going to start siding with PIT (currently about 40% ATS and 35% ML on Steelers), although I don't think they will. I think they're pretty locked in on the opinion that "this is gonna be a close one between 2 good teams, so take the +7 and it should be good no matter who wins". I've seen that reasoning so many times this week so far for this game that I could literally :puke:
    Last edited by Stifler's Mom; 11-13-2009, 01:23 PM.

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  • Stifler's Mom
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    Originally posted by Oracle
    Packers off a major upset loss, now home dogs against a Dallas team playing the second of back to back road games and in the middle of a division sandwich after winning a big game against the rival Eagles and the rival Redskins up next. I agree with Hodown here. The Packers will be wired and ready to play. And the Cowboys are the Cowboys, inconsistent, as soon as they look dominant they do something that makes you scratch your head and rethink it all. See Romo throwing a few picks against the very good Green Bay corners and Rodgers exploiting the Dallas pass defense that gives huge chunks of yardage.
    Agreed. As the old saying goes, in the NFL, no team is ever as good or as bad as they looked the week before.

    Usually holds true too, and I've gotta believe Romo is long overdue for a "Cutleresque" stinker...

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  • hodown
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    So far in 2009

    Homedawgs: 17-24 ATS

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  • hodown
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    GB's o-line may not be good but in the NFL I like to play good situational spots and this is one. If we're going to say Team A is better than Team B so they're going to cover, then faves would cover every game. But it's the NFL and atleast 20 teams are capable, especially at home, of pulling off an upset. Hell, the Bears beat Pitt at home earlier this year and they look like absolute ****, so anything can happen.

    Cinci @ Pitt -7
    Pick the winner here. Pitt coming in off a short week hurts, but I don't think they can afford to lose two games to Cinci. Should be another emotionally charged game and I like the home team. They looked damn good in the second half of the Denver game, and the books are making you pay to take -7 but I'll bite.

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  • Bacon
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    I like the Jets this week. Jacksonville who almost blew the game against the Chiefs and have to go up north and play a team off a bye with a strong defense. The Jets D is ranked #2 by yards and #2 by DVOA. I only fear the Sanchize could create 6 or so turnovers and make this game far closer then it should be. The Jets do have a productive ground attack though and Jacksonville's defense is deplorable so there is no reason the game should be on his shoulders.

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  • rollin in it
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    I would be cautious with the Packers. I am not sure they have covered against a decent team all year, and Dallas qualifies as more than that. There is a trend that the Packers get too much credit by the bookmakers, and now last week they got beat by a winless Bucs team.

    Problem is, the Dallas pash rush is going to eat Rogers for breakfast. Dallas is more physical and tougher than Green Bay. Not sure I am going to touch this game, but if I do, I am taking Dallas over the ALWAYS overrated Packers.

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  • Oracle
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    Originally posted by Badger
    Since it seems to be the main topic of discussion in here this week, let me share this with all of you jakes:

    Offense clears the air - JSOnline

    This has become THEE game for the Packers.

    After reading the article my take was why the f--k did it take so long for them to get to this point.

    Also, the rookie TJ Lang is set to start at right tackle. Not sure that means squat.

    As Oracle can back me up, I thought the Pack was a cinch last week. Boy was I way wrong. I gotta take off my homer glasses. Maybe they've burned me enough, but I think the Cowboys are the better team and everyone is overrating the Pack here.

    Plus, don't forget that Romo is a Wisconsin boy. Born down the road in Burlington. Coming home for the first time as a starter. He's gonna be jacked up playing in front of his family and friends. The whole state almost **** when he brought Jessica Simpson up here last summer, with articles in the paper chronicling their every move while they were here.

    How will he respond to that is another factor to consider.
    Thanks for the article Badger. That makes me lean even more towards the Packers. I know that with all things equal the Cowboys would probably win this game, just like last week the Packers would normally beat Tampa. But all things are not equal. These two teams are on opposite sides emotionally. One is playing back to back on the road and one is coming home with their tail between their legs. These NFL players have alot of pride(at least 99%). And if Green Bay doesn't bring their A game here then they will not bring it for the rest of the season. There's no number that can be assigned to a games emotions. Look at the Cardinals last week after being humiliated. May not work with just plain bad teams but Green Bay is not as bad as they looked last week just like Arizona wasn't as bad as they looked against the Panthers. Does that mean Green Bay is a lock? No. They could get bombed but I don't think it will happen.
    Last edited by Oracle; 11-12-2009, 10:16 PM.

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  • Badger
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    Since it seems to be the main topic of discussion in here this week, let me share this with all of you jakes:

    Offense clears the air - JSOnline

    This has become THEE game for the Packers.

    After reading the article my take was why the f--k did it take so long for them to get to this point.

    Also, the rookie TJ Lang is set to start at right tackle. Not sure that means squat.

    As Oracle can back me up, I thought the Pack was a cinch last week. Boy was I way wrong. I gotta take off my homer glasses. Maybe they've burned me enough, but I think the Cowboys are the better team and everyone is overrating the Pack here.

    Plus, don't forget that Romo is a Wisconsin boy. Born down the road in Burlington. Coming home for the first time as a starter. He's gonna be jacked up playing in front of his family and friends. The whole state almost **** when he brought Jessica Simpson up here last summer, with articles in the paper chronicling their every move while they were here.

    How will he respond to that is another factor to consider.

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  • Oracle
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    Originally posted by Reggie Hamlin
    Oracale I understand all of that but my question is will Greenbays O-Line all of a sudden be good and stop a cowboys d that has been very good the last 3 games
    yes this is a trap game for the boys but greenbay seems to be going in the other direction while dallas seems to be on the right track. Arod has been sacked at least
    38 times this year already who is going to stop Andre Ware ? I think he may be running for his life out there. The line is fishy and begging for Dallas money that scares me. I just think the Dallas front 4 is too much for Greenbay to handle .
    You could very well be right there Reggie. I don't have much faith in their line either, that's why I took Tampa last week. For me it's the emotional element that pushes this game towards the Packers. I don't know if Dallas can keep up this level of play in back to back road games and in a division sandwich. They are coming off a huge win against their rival on the road.

    On the other side the Packers have to be humiliated by their loss to Tampa Bay and this offensive line is taking the brunt of the heat from the media(well deserved too). I just see them playing at a higher level than Dallas in this spot especially as home dogs at Lambeau. Don't see that often. How is one loss Minnesota a dog at Green Bay but Dallas is a road favorite?

    I would go with the points here but I totally agree with where you are coming from, they have stunk along the line and if they don't pick up their play and Dallas maintains the level they've been playing at defensively than Rodgers will be running for his life.
    Last edited by Oracle; 11-12-2009, 09:54 PM.

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  • Reggie Hamlin
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    Oracale I understand all of that but my question is will Greenbays O-Line all of a sudden be good and stop a cowboys d that has been very good the last 3 games
    yes this is a trap game for the boys but greenbay seems to be going in the other direction while dallas seems to be on the right track. Arod has been sacked at least
    38 times this year already who is going to stop Andre Ware ? I think he may be running for his life out there. The line is fishy and begging for Dallas money that scares me. I just think the Dallas front 4 is too much for Greenbay to handle .
    Last edited by Reggie Hamlin; 11-12-2009, 09:42 PM.

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  • Oracle
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    Originally posted by DukiesBaby
    since when is 6-2 inconsistent, along with a last second fg loss to nyg?
    Are they the defense that has shown up recently or the one that had zero sacks early in the season?

    Is Romo the quarterback he has been the last few games or the guy who threw three picks in that Giants loss and has choked consistently in big games over the last few years?

    Are they the team that almost lost to 0-4 Kansas City and were down 10-0 at half or the team that dismantled the Falcons?

    In offering his thoughts on Seattle, receiver Roy Williams gave a rather frank assessment of the Cowboys.

    "You don't know what team is going to show up,'' Williams said of the Seahawks. "They've blown some teams out then they've gotten beat.

    "We're pretty much like them. We don't know what team is going to show up with us. But we've got a little streak going. We've just got to continue to ride this wave.''

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  • DukiesBaby
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    Originally posted by Oracle
    Packers off a major upset loss, now home dogs against a Dallas team playing the second of back to back road games and in the middle of a division sandwich after winning a big game against the rival Eagles and the rival Redskins up next. I agree with Hodown here. The Packers will be wired and ready to play. And the Cowboys are the Cowboys, inconsistent, as soon as they look dominant they do something that makes you scratch your head and rethink it all. See Romo throwing a few picks against the very good Green Bay corners and Rodgers exploiting the Dallas pass defense that gives huge chunks of yardage.


    since when is 6-2 inconsistent, along with a last second fg loss to nyg?

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  • Oracle
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    Packers off a major upset loss, now home dogs against a Dallas team playing the second of back to back road games and in the middle of a division sandwich after winning a big game against the rival Eagles and the rival Redskins up next. I agree with Hodown here. The Packers will be wired and ready to play. And the Cowboys are the Cowboys, inconsistent, as soon as they look dominant they do something that makes you scratch your head and rethink it all. See Romo throwing a few picks against the very good Green Bay corners and Rodgers exploiting the Dallas pass defense that gives huge chunks of yardage.

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  • Daws1089
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    I'm not sure I would back GB, but it seems like everyone in the media and everything are annointing DAL as this great team now. They won one freakin game against a decent team, big deal. Also, its not like they dominated the eagles or anything, they won by 4 and it was a tightly played game. I just think a lot is being made out of that win at philly than there should be.

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