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War Pass has beaten Pyro handily at least twice hasn't he (I haven't looked it up yet but I can think of twice from memory I believe)? Once on a fast track and once on an off track at the Breeders Cup???
I'm personally throwing out War Pass's Tampa Derby race which I watched live on TVG, and chalking it up to a bad break (where he stumbled), and then reacting poorly to adversity and dirt in his face for the first time. If he breaks well, I still don't think he can be beaten and 7 to 1 looks like a gift right now. Next time he runs, maybe in the Bluegrass will be very telling and I'm going to bet at least a small number on him before that race (assuming he runs) because if he wins it the number is going to plummet again.Last edited by CuseFan10; 03-28-2008, 04:13 PM.
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IMO if War Pass can't handle trouble no way he will win the Derby. Pyro looks good. My top 10
1)Pyro
2)El Gato Malo
3)Z Humor
4)Visionaire
5)Elysium Fields
6)War Pass
7)Denis of Cork
8)Country Star
9)Z Fortune
10)Blackberry RoadNFL 0-0 +0.00units
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Originally posted by CuseFan10 View PostWar Pass has beaten Pyro handily at least twice hasn't he (I haven't looked it up yet but I can think of twice from memory I believe)? Once on a fast track and once on an off track at the Breeders Cup???
Pyro looks to be much more ready for the Derby distance than War Pass, though. Can't look at the ~6f races and try to take them at face value.
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Originally posted by CuseFan10 View PostWhy does he look more ready?
Birds may have more, but that's why I like Pyro over War Pass, and will likely leave War Pass off of my exotics if he is the favorite on the morning line Derby day.
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Nittany I see it the same as you I dont like speed horses in the Derby. IMO they would be better off running War Pass at a mile. One thing about Pyro is the Fair Ground form in past years have not held up in the Derby. I love El Gato Malo, the only thing is he will not run on dirt till the Derby. Looks like War Pass will run in the Wood next, I hope he kills the field so he is overbet in the Derby. This 3 year old class is bad.NFL 0-0 +0.00units
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Originally posted by birdsfan5 View PostNittany I see it the same as you I dont like speed horses in the Derby. IMO they would be better off running War Pass at a mile. One thing about Pyro is the Fair Ground form in past years have not held up in the Derby. I love El Gato Malo, the only thing is he will not run on dirt till the Derby. Looks like War Pass will run in the Wood next, I hope he kills the field so he is overbet in the Derby. This 3 year old class is bad.
War Pass would be much better at a mile, much like Hard Spun a year ago. Hard Spun had ******* amazing cruising speed and could hold a lead very well, but just didn't have quite enough to make it the extra quarter and couldn't handle being caught up in the wash.
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