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**Charlie Hustle** · 04-30-2007, 11:36 AM

Appreciate the appeciation

**yukoncornelius** · 04-30-2007, 12:12 PM

Hmmm I really like alot of your picks, might be on 80% of them haha.

**COACH DITKA** · 04-30-2007, 12:31 PM

GL JML! Hope my Cubbies come through for you. I think part of the reason the line is so low in some peoples' opinions is that Duke (regardless of how he has done this year) has always befuddled the Cubs in the last 3 years or so, to the point where he has just been downright dominant. I sure hope that changes today! :thumbs:

**Stifler's Mom** · 04-30-2007, 03:49 PM

Not hard to see why the line is so low for the Flubs and Hill. Duke has absolutely owned them, and it's not hard to see why, judging by the way the Flubs hit lefties....which is not good....hitting a feeble. 218 vs LHP so far this season and right off the top of my head being owned by Ted Lilly and even being shut down by oil can Mark Redman, who everyone else has beaten the hell out of this year.

With that being said, Rich Hill is a quality lefty himself, and the Flubs do have the more potentially potent line up, so my decision to back the home dog here is a tough one....although I'm pretty sure I'll be playing the under.

Like the Phils and D'backs though. I'm concerned about why the line is so low for the D'backs with Webb going against the very average Randy Wolf (yea, he's been decent this year, but got hit around early vs SF in his last start, and has always been very hittable in the past), but the public tells me that my thoughts that it is just a generic line to get even action are probably true, as they are pretty much split on the game. Also love the situation with the Dodgers coming off a marathon yesterday.

GL tonight, and watch out for incoming turds :beerbang:

**JohnnyMapleLeaf** · 04-30-2007, 04:14 PM

Thanks guys.

Yeah, Ditka, Stif...I see that Duke has been great against Chicago...I usually don't take "Career vs Team A" into account very much when capping. New Cub team, new players, new year...but that is probably a reason for the line. Although a couple Cubs have awesome career numbers against Duke, and newcomer Soriano is 2 for 5 lifetime, and Duke is 0-1 in his last 2 starts against the cubbies, ...who knows...that career number could mean something, but I rarely use it. But...the one thing I don't like is that the avg. vs lefties I believe in that capping tool very much. Just think Hill is too good for Pitt. Might grab some of that under though, Stif.

GL...Zona looks real good :thumbs:

**FlyersFan** · 04-30-2007, 04:23 PM

JML- GL!....can't believe you're not playing OTT to win one of these 2 games after you said they would win the series pretty easily. You done with pucks for the year? You don't seem too into gambling on them.......i may take a couple day break as soon as i have a bad day...kind of need a break but don't want to stop in the middle of winning......

**Kevin** · 04-30-2007, 04:55 PM

thanks for the insight stif, im gonna grab some under as well. thx!

**wsox08** · 04-30-2007, 05:04 PM

GL 2day JML!

**Stifler's Mom** · 04-30-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyMapleLeaf View Post

Thanks guys.

Yeah, Ditka, Stif...I see that Duke has been great against Chicago...I usually don't take "Career vs Team A" into account very much when capping. New Cub team, new players, new year...but that is probably a reason for the line. Although a couple Cubs have awesome career numbers against Duke, and newcomer Soriano is 2 for 5 lifetime, and Duke is 0-1 in his last 2 starts against the cubbies, ...who knows...that career number could mean something, but I rarely use it. But...the one thing I don't like is that the avg. vs lefties I believe in that capping tool very much. Just think Hill is too good for Pitt. Might grab some of that under though, Stif.

GL...Zona looks real good :thumbs:

I see your points, but have you ever seen some of these Flubs hitters try to hit a lefty? And I'm talking about this year's team. With that being said, they'll probably put up 15 runs tonight, lol

And, don't get me wrong here, I'm not criticizing your capping style at all or questioning how you come up with plays....but I have seen you say in the past that you liked the Jays at least partially because they kill LHP, yet when a team doesn't seem to hit lefties well, it's not a concern....so that didn't really make sense to me. Just curious.

**PhillyFan3** · 04-30-2007, 05:09 PM

gl 2 night JML... I see great value in Phills and O's tonight...like the DBACKS and Pads RL as well

**JohnnyMapleLeaf** · 04-30-2007, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Stifler's Mom View Post

I see your points, but have you ever seen some of these Flubs hitters try to hit a lefty? And I'm talking about this year's team. With that being said, they'll probably put up 15 runs tonight, lol

And, don't get me wrong here, I'm not criticizing your capping style at all or questioning how you come up with plays....but I have seen you say in the past that you liked the Jays at least partially because they kill LHP, yet when a team doesn't seem to hit lefties well, it's not a concern....so that didn't really make sense to me. Just curious.

No, Stif...didn't think you were critizing at all, and your points were well taken as always as you answered my question as to why the line was so low. I don't like the "pitcher alltime vs team" stuff (I find it to be a close cousin of the whole NFL "Bengals 4-25 @ Denver" kind of trend bull****) the past is the past....BUT like you, I think the Lefty/Righty thing is huge in bases capping (like you say...me and the Jays)...and like I said above....when you and Ditka brought that up, I didn't like that at all because I missed that angle totally here with the Cubs because I was so excited about getting Hill on a low number coming off a loss.

Still like the play though, cause the play is mainly on Hill shutting down the Bucs completely...and I don't have Duke as a top shut-down lefty anyway...

GL tonight Stiff... :thumbs:

**birdsfan5** · 04-30-2007, 06:32 PM

Gl JML

**JohnnyMapleLeaf** · 04-30-2007, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by FlyersFan View Post

JML- GL!....can't believe you're not playing OTT to win one of these 2 games after you said they would win the series pretty easily. You done with pucks for the year? You don't seem too into gambling on them.......i may take a couple day break as soon as i have a bad day...kind of need a break but don't want to stop in the middle of winning......

I was boycotting you ever since I saw you in an NBA In-game thread going to town as happy as a clam. Disgraceful! Just Brutal. LOL

Nahh...just trying to pick my spots...and I had been making some plays up until Friday, but then I was moving into a new place, and didn't have internet yet...so no plays on anything until today @ work.

I stayed away from Ottawa juiced up that much as I think Marty seems to be hitting his stride, and could steal any game from here on in...ALTHOUGH, I do think Ottawa wins tonight...but in a close one...

I do have a play on the Sharks later tonight that I will be posting...

GL FF..

**FlyersFan** · 04-30-2007, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by JohnnyMapleLeaf View Post

I was boycotting you ever since I saw you in an NBA In-game thread going to town as happy as a clam. Disgraceful! Just Brutal. LOL

lmao....they call me the NBA hater over there......:beerbang:

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