***NFL Week 6 Discussion***

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  • Daws1089
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    I'm feeling carolina today.. No one seems to be giving them a chance. Their defense played well last week, granted it was against NO, but arizona without Boldin isnt very frightening either. I guess i might lay off of the side, but an under play might be in store.

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  • tdawgmd
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    Originally posted by Stifler's Mom
    Sharp money on TB....
    Pretty sure that's correct. Really feel like the Titans should be the fav if I was setting the line, so it's definitely fishy. Feel the same way about the Philly game.

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  • Stifler's Mom
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    By the way, I agree with what Skins said there last.

    The books don't give a crap who the public is loading up on, because the games the public loads up on lose more than they win. The books need less than 50% winners to profit on these games, considering they also collect vig (juice), unlike you or I who need more than 50% just to break even because unfortunately, we pay juice.

    Sharp money moves lines....at least meaningful amounts.

    Public all over TEN, and the line moves from TEN +1.5 to TEN +3?

    Books now open to people buying TEN to +3.5, and taking the chance of being middled on TB -1.5 (sharp line), and TEN +3 or TEN +3.5 (public line) if the game lands on 2 or 3.

    They moved it anyway.

    Think about it....

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  • Stifler's Mom
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    Originally posted by DevilsAdvokt
    here is another line question i have


    titans line opens at +1.5

    now is at +3


    but 72% of the money is bet on titans? shouldnt the line be moving towards a pk'em instead of away?
    Sharp money on TB....

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  • Skinsfan
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    Originally posted by homedawg
    IF? No they dont, on every game...:thumbs:
    Perhaps... OR, they just let the law of averages work in their favor.... some games they lose, some games they win, but with the vig it all averages out to a positive stream of income. Seriously, there is WAY more risk when books expose themselves to middles than just losing 1 lopsided game. Just another point of view... it's just math.... individual games really dont make any difference in the long run (with the possible exception of the super bowl). Not saying its right or wrong.... all i know for a fact is that no one here knows for sure either.

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  • homedawg
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    Take a look at the hard hit games on sundays... The top 3 or 4 with most action..... SI shows the # of bets, those are usually the books BIG moneymakers...
    :beer2:

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  • homedawg
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    Originally posted by Skinsfan
    if books truly seek even action

    IF? No they dont, on every game...:thumbs:

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  • Skinsfan
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    Originally posted by DevilsAdvokt
    but if more bets were placed on titans still would mean public betting.... correct?

    72% of bets taking on titans so most people aka public is riding them so than ur implying that by raising the titans to plus 3 istrying to get more public money on them to help them pay out the big bettors on the bucs because they are leaning to a bucs covering?
    if books truly seek even action, then you have to believe a rising line means more money has been coming in on the fav

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  • DevilsAdvokt
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    Originally posted by Skinsfan
    no because 72% of the MONEY is not on the titans

    first of all, be very cautious with the numbers you get off the internet

    2nd, realize the most of those numbers you get off the internet are not money % but number of bets %

    big difference.... 9 guys bet team 1, and 1 guy bets team b.... each one of the 9 guys bets $100 and the 1 lone guy on team b bets 900.... the moeny is split 50/50 but the number you get off the internet will say 90% on team a


    but if more bets were placed on titans still would mean public betting.... correct?

    72% of bets taking on titans so most people aka public is riding them so than ur implying that by raising the titans to plus 3 istrying to get more public money on them to help them pay out the big bettors on the bucs because they are leaning to a bucs covering?

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  • homedawg
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    Originally posted by DevilsAdvokt
    so is that sharp money or public you are speaking of on miami?
    that can be anyone's money... +200 would cover a cle -4.5 bet, and you still come out ahead, if the fins win... :beer2:

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  • Skinsfan
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    Originally posted by DevilsAdvokt
    here is another line question i have


    titans line opens at +1.5

    now is at +3


    but 72% of the money is bet on titans? shouldnt the line be moving towards a pk'em instead of away?
    no because 72% of the MONEY is not on the titans

    first of all, be very cautious with the numbers you get off the internet

    2nd, realize the most of those numbers you get off the internet are not money % but number of bets %

    big difference.... 9 guys bet team 1, and 1 guy bets team b.... each one of the 9 guys bets $100 and the 1 lone guy on team b bets 900.... the moeny is split 50/50 but the number you get off the internet will say 90% on team a

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  • homedawg
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    Originally posted by DevilsAdvokt
    here is another line question i have


    titans line opens at +1.5

    now is at +3


    but 72% of the money is bet on titans? shouldnt the line be moving towards a pk'em instead of away?
    if, you can figure out which side the books are taking a stand on, in the long-run you will increase your chances of coming out a winner

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  • DevilsAdvokt
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    Originally posted by homedawg
    a game mia can win... 3 games on the road for mia, and they lost all 3 games, by 3...
    +200 shows value...:beer2:

    so is that sharp money or public you are speaking of on miami?

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  • DevilsAdvokt
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    here is another line question i have


    titans line opens at +1.5

    now is at +3


    but 72% of the money is bet on titans? shouldnt the line be moving towards a pk'em instead of away?

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  • homedawg
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    a game mia can win... 3 games on the road for mia, and they lost all 3 games, by 3...
    +200 shows value...:beer2:

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