***Week 8 Discussion***

[DevilsAdvokt]

I think the Saints should be favored here... SF's offense is non-existant & the Saints are the better team despite the poor start. IMO the Saints win this one, even with Alex Smith returning. The Saints weakness is the pass D, & at #32 passing offense, SF has little to exploit that weakness.

non existant cause statue trent dilfer was quarter back... frank gore will be frank gore of last year vs this saints team and drew brees will be drew of this year as the anouncer says all day in san fran this week "another pick thrown by drew brees" 49ers win this out right 24-13

good luck guys

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

The Saints weakness is the pass D, & with the league's #32 passing offense, SF has little to exploit that weakness.

:thumbs:

[Underdog88]

I dunno wtf happened there....


In regards to the Miami game, IMO it's still Miami or no-play for me. No homefield advantage, Miami is bound to play a tight one, & Eli is bound to make some mistakes. NYG going into a bye....my concern is how will the Fins stop the run?

[Underdog88]

saints favored over 49ers in san fran by -2??? shouldnt the home team be favored in this toilet bowl match up...

points over 40 in san fran/saints i feel this should have been put at 45 or so...

I think the Saints should be favored here... SF's offense is non-existant & the Saints are the better team despite the poor start. IMO the Saints win this one, even with Alex Smith returning. The Saints weakness is the pass D, & with the league's #32 passing offense, SF has little to exploit that weakness. I would lean to the under here, as SF hasn't scored over 20 ppg all season & is averaging 13 ppg. SF game went over last week because of 4 turnovers, & IMO that's the only way the Niners can win this game. If you think they win, they would have to limit the Saints scoring or put up way more points than they usually do. Nothing suggests to me that they'll start scoring though, so I can't endorse the over.

[Underdog88]

saints favored over 49ers in san fran by -2??? shouldnt the home team be favored in this toilet bowl match up...

points over 40 in san fran/saints i feel this should have been put at 45 or so...

I think the Saints should be favored here... SF's offense is non-existant & the Saints are the better team despite the poor start. IMO the Saints win this one, even with Alex Smith returning. The Saints weakness is the pass D, & at #32 passing offense, SF has little to exploit that weakness.

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

saints favored over 49ers in san fran by -2??? shouldnt the home team be favored in this toilet bowl match up...

points over 40 in san fran/saints i feel this should have been put at 45 or so...

SF favoured? No way...they wouldn't be favoured over anyone....and not over NO, who have won 2 in a row, have some big name offensive talent, and had alot of preseason hype...no way SF could be favoured with the way people think NO is back.

Also...no way that game total would be over 40...SF is by far the worst offensive team in the NFL...and has injury problems at the QB & RB positions. Like the under 40.5, and would hammer a 45 Under...

I'm not saying NO will definitely win this game, but I don't see how the oddsmakers could have made SF favs....GL!

[cavorca12]

JML, that's a pretty good point on Zach Thomas. At first, I completely disregarded the game because of the Europe thing, but once I began looking at things, Mia looked like a possible play for me. Without Brown, yea, Chatman can get the job done IMO, but you're probably right that Thomas is another story. Thanks for the info.

[DevilsAdvokt]

Someone give me some thoughts on the SD/Houston game. I think Houston could keep this close, they can move the ball through the air, but I'm waiting to see if Shaub will start. I think he does, so the 10 pts look tempting....however I'm not sure with the Chargers rested off a bye. Houston has the #5 passing attack avg 265 per game, even without Andre Johnson. The Chargers have the leagues 25th pass d, allowing 240 per game. The Chargers have the edge in the run game, as they are avg 4.3/125yds per game, & Houston is allowing 4.7 ypc. I'm sure LT will be finding the endzone more than once this game. I have the Chargers putting up 28+, so do the Texans score 20? Maybe the o45 is a little better, because if Houston does keep it close, I would think it sails over. One thing that worries me is the Texans #31 rushing attack. Just 3.1 ypc, & they're facing the #6 run D in the league, & teams rarely can keep the cover if they become 1 dimensional.

Has this game been decided where it will be played? if its played in houston ill take the points..

right now 2 of my 3 books dont even have a spread for this game... so i feel that i am just gonna stay away from this game... i do however have this gut feeling that there will be alot of points put up in this game but than again its 3:30 in the afternoon here in oregon and i am upset at a situation here and i think i am a little drunk so dont take what i say into consideration...

also i want to note that after looking at the games again this week in the nfl... something strikes me as unusual

at first glance i didnt notice but i was wondering if anyone felt the same about these following spreads to be wrong or felt should be different....????


saints favored over 49ers in san fran by -2??? shouldnt the home team be favored in this toilet bowl match up...

points over 40 in san fran/saints i feel this should have been put at 45 or so...

phili favored on the road at minni just doesnt make sense to me with all the distractions going on and after getting beat at home late by the bears...

titans favored by 9 points over raiders...


i am probably gonna fade all 4 of these and take

49ers +2
raiders +9
minni +1
over 40 sanfran/aints


some input on these 4 games and thoughts to why the spreads are at what they are would be nice...

thanks and good luck this week

[Daws1089]

yea exactly JML... no ronnie brown fine,, but that defense might not stop Notre Dame without thomas in the middle.

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

No Ronnie Brown & Zach Thomas = No play for me...

[cavorca12]

I'm warming up to Mia more and more. I don't think Brown's injury makes a big difference either way, as Chatman has played well this season. Also, the great ATS record of winless teams of 0-5 or worse has been bucked the past 2 weeks by STL and Mia. I think both have better than average situations this week, but I like Mia's a little more. One worry though, is that at 0-7, it's just like a vacation to them instead of taking care of business. Another thing I'd be considering if I were not a Saints fan, SF at +3. I'm still not sold on us, lol...

[GamblinMan03]

This is really interesting, I heard it on Mike and Mike this morning:

No QB has ever beaten all 31 possible teams.
Manning has beaten 30 of the 31 teams (can't beat Indianapolis)
Brady has beaten 30 of the 31 teams (can't beat New England)

The one team Manning has never beaten: Carolina

The one team Brady has never beaten: Washington.

This week, the week before they play each other:
Indy plays Carolina
NE Plays Washington

Seems really ironic, or odd doesn't it. I did not go back and double check any of their stats, nor do I know if Carolina has played Indy or Washing has played NE while they started, so for all I know they are 0-0 against these teams.

Horfin

As funny as it sounds, what I am about to tell you is true.

Tom Brady was the starting quarterback when they played Steve Spurrier's Redskins. Not sure what year it was, I think 2002. But the Redskins won that game in Week 4 or 5 and the Patriots never lost again.

Pretty funny how Spurrier beat a team coached by God Bellichick.

[Underdog88]

***Vilma likely out for the season with a knee injury***

This hurts the Jets big time, losing their best LB & leading tackler. I had a little concern about Vilma coming in on blitzes- IMO the Bills line has been playing well on the pass rush save Butler, who missed some key assignments last week. With Vilma out, I think there will be even more opportunity for Edwards to find those quick hitters in the passing game. I really think Lynch breaks out this week.... I'm 80% sold on the over 37.5.

[Horfin]

This is really interesting, I heard it on Mike and Mike this morning:

No QB has ever beaten all 31 possible teams.
Manning has beaten 30 of the 31 teams (can't beat Indianapolis)
Brady has beaten 30 of the 31 teams (can't beat New England)

The one team Manning has never beaten: Carolina

The one team Brady has never beaten: Washington.

This week, the week before they play each other:
Indy plays Carolina
NE Plays Washington

Seems really ironic, or odd doesn't it. I did not go back and double check any of their stats, nor do I know if Carolina has played Indy or Washing has played NE while they started, so for all I know they are 0-0 against these teams.

Horfin

[Horfin]

Ud,

If my house is burning down I don't know how concentrated on the game I could be. There are numerous coaches and players with that issue.

I like the points.

Horfin