***Week 8 Discussion***

[gsad]

I like the Skins with the Pats looking ahead to next week, I think NE will take the Skins lightly and pull out a close win.

[Horfin]

I really don't understand why everyone is on the Bills. They are 3-7 on the road dating back to last year and 4-14 going back two years. Just like detroit, Buffalo is just a bad, very bad road team. Teams now have some film of the QB to review. I don't see it. I was ready to play the jets until I came in here and read this stuff.

[COACH DITKA]

Would everyone agree this is finally when the Pats run of covering comes to an end? I mean, yeah the 'Skins aren't the most prolific of offensive teams. Still, can't imagine NE not looking ahead to next game in Indy. Plus, the 'Skins got a very solid D. If they can muster up any kind of pass rush of Brady, this can be very interesting. The corners ain't too shabby plus Taylor and Landry can flat-out bring the wood. Watson has been ruled out already and I wouldn't be surprised to see another target of Brady getting carried off w/those safeties back there.
Also, Panthers at home could be possible to cover, depending on where the line goes (also due to a potential look-ahead), though the idea of Carolina being led by a 90 year man under center isn't enticing as one hit by Freeney could be lethal.
Anyways, just my two cents. I'll comment more later.


Moose

[homedawg]

43.5 seems awfully high.

what usually happens when 2 ****ty defenses get together.....:beer2: Imo ether 1 of these teams could give up that number alone.... stl not a scoring machine on the road, but at home, they have scored 48 points in last 2 games... and cle has been puttin' up big points since DA took over the team...

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

JML

The fact that I am inclined under and you like the over is probably a good thing for you. I have my record updated at home and will post it in my thread, but I swear on totals I began 3-1 in week 1 and then went something horrific like 3-10 or worse.

I shied away from totals last two weeks and made money.

Horfin

I suck at totals too, so who knows, lol! :dunno:

We've now janxed each side of this total, so maybe we're back to where we started! :laughing:

[Horfin]

JML

The fact that I am inclined under and you like the over is probably a good thing for you. I have my record updated at home and will post it in my thread, but I swear on totals I began 3-1 in week 1 and then went something horrific like 3-10 or worse.

I shied away from totals last two weeks and made money.

Horfin

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Cleveland-ST Louis - I have sucked at totals this season, but the 43.5 seems awfully high.

I agree with all your observations....but I tend to agree with UD on that Cle/STL total. I might play a rare total this week, and take that Over. Browns have a pretty potent offence, ranked 4th in PPG, with lots of weapons, and a piss-poor defence ranked last in the whole league. STL getting healthy on the offensive side of the ball with Bulger, Jackson, Holt & Bruce ready to put up some points this week at home...add in a dome stadium, and there's a very good chance this this goes way over.

This might be one of only 2 or 3 total wagers I make all year, so I was surprised to see you comment on the other side...lol....GL Horf....hope you have another great week...I agree with your sides leans! :beerbang:

[Horfin]

Here is the crap that jumped out at me first:

NYG-MIA - RB hurt doesn't matter, Bring back Ricky Tokin' Williams! I think the travel factor hurts the better team. Hell you can't be worse than 0-7. I like Miami with all those juicey points.

GB-DEN - I think the wrong team is favored. GB off a bye on MNF. Gimme GB with the points.

Cleveland-ST Louis - I have sucked at totals this season, but the 43.5 seems awfully high.

Phil/Minn - Minn should be 3 point favorite, not a Pick.

SF/NO - Game shouldn't be a pickem...too much emphasis on the massive two game winning streak by NO.

Tenn-Oak - Line is WAY too BIG. I hope it gets bet down so I can play on my Titans...Probably be a No Play for me or the first time I am against Titans.

Horfin

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Also, I grabbed Indy - 6 1/2 as soon as I seen it. Peyton doesn't have the weopons Brady does, but Peyton's ability to read defenses gives him some edge. I don't think Car has a chance with the one week wonder. He's had two weeks to get it together and learning the schemes is alot different that actually performing them. Just pick the winner with lines of 7 or less and they will cover is quite amazing this year averaging 1 a week. Indy and NE are the exceptions to all the crap I keep track of. Trend busters so to speak.

I agree....Peyton vs Vinny....wow.....and it's not like Carolina has played well this year...they've been pretty much ****....yeah they're 4-2, but with close wins over the likes of NO, ATL, STL & Zona. Real step up in talent on both sides of the ball for the Panthers here. I was real surprised to see this under a TD.....GL, Yo!!

[hodown]

with dilfer at the helm, the niners might be the worst team in the league. its gonna be hard to lay on them, even if the saints are a little overrated after 2 in a row.

of the last 9 between pit/cinci, the road team has won 8 s/u. cinci with an absolutely horrific defense, but they are 2-1 at home with the lone loss coming to ne. also this game is a rivalry game, cinci has the better sos, and is an absolute must-win for cinci.

stlouis starting to get healthy and getting points at home against cleveland. thats enuf for me.

carolina a sneaky 4-2, colts coming off a big win at jax on monday nite and a big game with ne looms. indi is the king of winning on the road but not covering. carr should be ready to go, who really cares but it is an upgrade from vinnie. public will be heavy on indi after mondays performance, i think indi wins but doesnt get the cover.

vikes/philly, not sure why peterson splits carries with taylor, but its been that way the whole season when both have been healthy. philly slightly better in overall offense and defense, and philly has been very stiff on rush defense this year. both teams are 2-4, pub slightly on minny, odd that philly is favored here, which makes me wonder if philly isnt the play

[yomonte]

Also, I grabbed Indy - 6 1/2 as soon as I seen it. Peyton doesn't have the weopons Brady does, but Peyton's ability to read defenses gives him some edge. I don't think Car has a chance with the one week wonder. He's had two weeks to get it together and learning the schemes is alot different that actually performing them. Just pick the winner with lines of 7 or less and they will cover is quite amazing this year averaging 1 a week. Indy and NE are the exceptions to all the crap I keep track of. Trend busters so to speak.

[yomonte]

Nice thread UDog. Should have looked in here long before now. I like Oak and Philly, but Oly has some fkd up lines on both. 7 1/2 on Oak where most have 9. I'm waiting on that one and Philly but Oly is not budging off the 1. Twice Pinny went to +1 only to come back to -1. But fkn Oly never moved except to go to -1 1/2. I'll take Philly -1 right before the game but hoping that line moves and I need 9 for Oak.

[bookiekilla]

At first glance this is what I'm looking at so far...

Rams +3 vs the Browns...live home dog here IMO...If the rams don't beat the browns at home, they might not ever win a game..lol...this one is perfect for them to get their O back on tracka as the Browns D is horrible.

Oakland +9....once again...like the Titans vs the Falcons earlier this year...I just don't think the titans are good enough yet to be laying almost Double digits to anyone...

Pitt -4...just pick the winner right? Can't see Cincy winning this one...so I wouldn't mind laying the 4

49ers +3....this is NOT last years saints team...I know the 49ers are bad, but the saints aren't good enought to be laying points on the road...to anyone...not yet atleast....they didn't show me anything against the falcons, even though they won that game..would've lost if it wasn't for Leftwitch getting hurt, IMO.....

Denver -3...just not impressed with the Pack so far this year...another one of the 'just picket winner' plays...Don't see farve having a good day against that bronco's secondary, so I don't see the Pack winning this one in denver...

also leaning towards the redskins....I finally see a line against the pats that I might want to play...

[Shamrock]

It looks like Stephen Jackson, Rudi Johnson, Brandon Jacobs are all a go this week. At QB, Joey Harrington, Kelly Holcomb, Vince Young are all a go.

Pennington and Edwards are up in the air for Jets and Bills.

Jesse Chatman replaces Ronnie brown for the rmainder of the season at starting RB.

Sham.......

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I think the Rams have a very good shot at a win, as Bulger should be able to throw all over the Brown's 29th ranked pass D, which has allowed 17 tds so far this season. The Browns also have the 30th ranked run D & in 2 road games have given up 6 turnovers (0-2). I do think this could be a better over play, as the Rams are allowing 4 ypc. & a 2nd worst in the league 9 tds allowed on the ground. The total is set at 43.5, & I can see both teams scoring at least 21 points each.

Steven Jackson a go for the Rams in this one as well...Rams & the Over?