WEEK 15 Discussion Thread >>>

[jd08]

I am a huge Panthers fan and I can tell you that I would bet the house, the farm and my first born child on Seattle this weekend. It seems like the oddsmakers just can't get it through their heads that the Panthers are totally pathetic this year. Seriously, I think that the Dolphins would probably take them by double digits on most weekends.

The Panthers are 1-6 in their last 7 games with the only win coming over SF. In those 6 losses they have scored 7,7,13,17,6,6. The 17 came against Green Bay when the Packers went into a 4th quarter prevent and the 13 came against Atlanta. The team is the worst offensively in the league and around here the word is that the defense hates the offense and there is dissension in the locker room. The problem is, the defense sucks also. Julius Peppers is an overpaid slug and none of the corners can play. Chris Gamble is playing with one hand.

It seems like every week the Panthers are right around a 7-10 point underdog. The only loss that they have had where they stayed within 7 points was the Atlanta loss. Go back and look at their other losses and the closest losses you will find are 31-17 and 20-7. The last 2 losses have been by 25 and 31 points. Trust me, when this team loses they get run out of the stadium.

Seattle has everything to play for and the Panthers are just trying to get the season over. Matt Moore will probably start this weekend and if he doesn't do you really think Testaverde can keep them in the game? Look for Hasselbeck to have a huge game as the Seahawks win by 4 touchdowns.

[homedawg]

I dont see the big deal with #3 seed or #4 seed???? Still gonna be a home game rd1, and on the road to dallas or gb, if you win... :beer2:

[Horfin]

Sea also has to play not to lose the #3 seed.

[homedawg]

tbb on the board @ -10, and on the move upwards, that makes 7 games on the board with dd spreads... cincy & sea could make it 9 of 16 with dd spreads... :beer2:

[NittanyLions94]

For anyone looking at the Steelers' game, DE Aaron Smith will be out for the season with a torn bicep. This hurts their defense immensely as they didn't look too good up front the first time he went down with a knee injury. The backups for him are Travis Kirschke and Nick Eason, both are about 2-3 steps below Smith in terms of talent. If Casey Hampton goes down(and it's inevitable), the Steelers' run D will be sub-par.

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Sure, I can see it now, week 16-- mia -7 @ nep... :drunk:

:laughing: :beerbang:

[homedawg]

Brady direct quote when asked if he cares about 16-0, "I care about 14-0"

Sure, I can see it now, week 16-- mia -7 @ nep... :drunk:

[NittanyLions94]

Carolina has been getting smoked by everyone except SF....and actually lost to the Atlanta F'ing Falcons....IN Carolina....that right there makes it a play on Seattle -7 for me. lol. I don't care if 105% of the public is on the hawks...they are playing solid football on both sides of the ball, and will take care of the Panthers easily. This feels EXACTLY like the Minny win over SF last week....easy pickins for a team on a roll...

Not to mention you can throw any sort of HF advantage out for Carolina. They have yet to win at home since their first home game against SF.

[Underdog88]

nep only needs 14 wins to have hf throughout the playoffs... do they lay down, after 14-0??? :hide:

Brady direct quote when asked if he cares about 16-0, "I care about 14-0"

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

nep only needs 14 wins to have hf throughout the playoffs... do they lay down, after 14-0??? :hide:

NE's 2nd stringers could still beat Miami by 30 though! lol

[Daws1089]

I think it's divisional record? :dunno:

i believe the tiebreaker for teams with the same record is their in conference record which puts new orleans at the top of all those 6-7 teams.

[homedawg]

nep only needs 14 wins to have hf throughout the playoffs... do they lay down, after 14-0??? :hide:

[Daws1089]

first, I'd like to say some things...

when exactly are the linesmakers going to get off their asses and give these dogs some better lines? Seems like every week, if you take the ridiculous 70% or 68% public play you cash. Whatever happened to the homedogs that get no love who win outright? Seems like we can go ahead and kiss home field advantage good bye this season for any game.

Next, disreguard everything I say because I haven't been more wrong in my entire life about anything than nfl football in 2007.

Now to the discussion,

I like the under 46 in the browns/bills. I think this will be a tight one where the defenses of these teams, not the offenses will determine the winner. I can see some ball control drives and high perentage throws (something the bills do always), but i think this game will have a playoff feel to it and the number could be a few too high.

I think tennessee -4 is a good one too. KC has packed it in, and if they havent already they will after sunday. That loss to denver last week might have just about done it. Tennessee needs this one to remain in the playoff hunt. pick the winner with the -4 spread and I think tennessee gets it done.

I know they may not have a whole lot to play for, but please tell me if you can see oakland staying within 11 of indy? Indy is still playing for the 1st rd bye and i can see a repeat of last week's debacle. Will we see jemarcus russel? or better yet maybe andrew walter? i gotta back the colts.

cowgirls/birds under 48.5

eagles have revenge on their minds. yea their playoff hopes are just about overwith, but that doesnt change this rivalry. Jim Johnson has seen what the cowboys do offensively and will be prepared for it this week. Eagles defense has been the reason why they were in or won any game this year. I think the eagles give the cowgirls a little more than they bargained for in this one, but probly lose. which makes me like the pts too, but not enough to bet it. But i see this one staying under maybe a 27-17 game.

[hodown]

sea has been respectable on the road this yr. if mccallister and rolle play, i gotta think balt is a decent play as well. i can understand people not wanting to lay on balt on the road, especially because the pub is all over them, but how can anyone lay on miami???

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

not sure what the tiebreaker is for same records, but it appears that dallas hasn't clinched the bye with 12 wins??? greenbay might need to get to 13 wins & dallas will get 13!

I think it's divisional record? :dunno: