Giants line.

[CuseFan10]

thowever every1 thought nyg had no chance against the bucs

Who's everyone who thought that? I don't know one person who bet on Tampa Bay and the talk here all week was that the Giants were supremely confident and almost expected to win this game. Granted, I'm in the NYC area but I don't really know anyone who thought Tampa was winning that game.

[homedawg]

Btw, when you see Bodog offerin' +10 -165 (2h), to a team that is up, 6-0, over a team, that was favored by 10, you just know, they are gonna make some $$$$$$$$$$

[homedawg]

.and the books don't always win.....this notion that every play is won by the books is assinine......

You didn't understand my statement, plain and simple: They lose 50% of the games, but they are always ahead on the money!!!!!! :thumbs:

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

gee thanks HD...i didn't know the books won...but thanks for the heads up....and the books don't always win.....this notion that every play is won by the books is assinine.....the books sure didn't win on NE most of the time this year...and those lines were inflated.....so just because this line is inflated means that in every game where a line is inflated the books win....:dunno:.....faulty logic........

i agree on playing JAX +13....i think they are a good football team, that is why i would play it....and i think they can run on NE......

:thumbs:

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx

Covering machine was long, long ago. They failed to cover 5 of their last 6 games, when the books caught up to them....and I think the Jags matchup well against them with NE's suspect run defence. Their pass defence scares me a bit, and is likely the reason the don't win outright....but I think they keep it under double digits...

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I agree completely with everything UD says. I actually think all favs win next weekend, but the only dog I would play a ML on would be Jax. I think they run all over NE....but the Pats will likely get it done in the end.

Looking at that SD UNDER as well :beerbang:

[homedawg]

gee thanks HD...i didn't know the books won...but thanks for the heads up....and the books don't always win.....this notion that every play is won by the books is assinine.....the books sure didn't win on NE most of the time this year...and those lines were inflated.....so just because this line is inflated means that in every game where a line is inflated the books win....:dunno:.....faulty logic........

i agree on playing JAX +13....i think they are a good football team, that is why i would play it....and i think they can run on NE......

look at the lines offered and the juice included, throw in all 4q's, 1h, 2h team totals, ml's, etc.... they find a way to win!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beerbang:

[FlyersFan]

just like in any sport: The Books Always Win!!!.... when you understand that, you will know the fact that the books will INFLATE on public perception...

gee thanks HD...i didn't know the books won...but thanks for the heads up....and the books don't always win.....this notion that every play is won by the books is assinine.....the books sure didn't win on NE most of the time this year...and those lines were inflated.....so just because this line is inflated means that in every game where a line is inflated the books win....:dunno:.....faulty logic........

i agree on playing JAX +13....i think they are a good football team, that is why i would play it....and i think they can run on NE......

[homedawg]

i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx

just like in any sport: The Books Always Win!!!.... when you understand that, you will know the fact that the books will INFLATE on public perception...

simple math: every match has a 50/50 odds, every ats will get 50/50 odds, and the books will adjust for that...

nep could go 19-0 s/u, so be it, but they will NEVER go 19-0 ats!!!!!!!! :beer2:

[wsox08]

i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx

The past few weeks teams have played the Pats tough and close. It seems like teams are learning more about the Pats game plan and Jax is a team that might be able to expose those weaknesses and take advantage of them. It seems like teams play harder vs. NE than other teams (ex. Balt, NYG). I could add more but I'm lazy.

[FlyersFan]

IMO Seattle is out of the question. Horrid road team, pretty one-dimensional (not half the running game they once had) playing in a hostile environment. Leinart & Anderson lit up the Seahawks secondary in the regular season, Favre will eat them alive. GB has the balanced offense to put up points on Sea, plus the tough D to provide takeaway opps.

Dallas is the play.... mismatches all over the field. If not for TO's status, I think the line would be higher. Dallas passing game is not the Bucs passing game.... they will expose the G-men's secondary. Eli won't be able to screen the Boys to death like he did vs. TB. Only a complete Boys meltdown results in an upset there...


That leaves the two afc games....


Jags- this team has that something, makes me think they keep it really close. Honestly, I'm likely to be on them even down to 10. I may start an argument here, but look at the Patriot's home games this season. Is it really even a debate that this will be the best team they have faced @ home? Garrard's 2ndh performance scares me, as he'd have to play a near perfect game for the Jags to win. However, the Pats surrender 4.4 ypc, & the Jags will adhere to the run game. I think this sets up for a good over play as well...


Chargers may be a good spread play, but I'm not sure if they take it su. Colts D severely underrated, & Rivers on the road= yikes! They did already beat the Colts, but special teams played a huge part. Right now I'm looking at the under....

udog- agree on that JAX game being high scoring.

[homedawg]

i think if Owens is limited, though, that changes the DAL offense. But then again, what are the odds Eli plays another clean game like he did today. I guess i would be shocked if Hasslebeck, king of the untimely turnover in the RZ, could lead SEA past Green Bay in Green Bay....and i really think SDG has little to no chance to win that game if Gates is out,which it looks like he will be......and i like the idea of taking JAX +, but i really don't see NE losing to JAX. Garrard would have to play perfect for that to happen because NE will score points and Brady won't make the bad throws that Rothlesberger did. So that leaves me with the team with the biggest question marks in DAL (Romo in a playoff game and Owens hurt) playing a red hot team in the NYG. Everyone kept waiting for PIT to lose 2 years ago......they never did. Not saying NYG are going to the SB, though. 1 thing is that Tampa Bay couldn't stretch the field without Galloway healthy and if Owens can't stretch the field, i think that the DAL game is going to look like the Tampa Bay game in terms of everyone close to the line of scrimmage daring them to go deep.

I dunno...those are my thoughts.....probably askew but we'll see....

I was so pissed at the seabags yesterday.... but today, (after the 30beers wore off) they may have a shot against the pack.... :beerbang:

[FlyersFan]

vegas lines are up..... nep -11.5 to 12.5 .... keep it growin'

i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx

[Underdog88]

I'm hopin' it does too.... give me some input on an upset.... :beerbang:

IMO Seattle is out of the question. Horrid road team, pretty one-dimensional (not half the running game they once had) playing in a hostile environment. Leinart & Anderson lit up the Seahawks secondary in the regular season, Favre will eat them alive. GB has the balanced offense to put up points on Sea, plus the tough D to provide takeaway opps.

Dallas is the play.... mismatches all over the field. If not for TO's status, I think the line would be higher. Dallas passing game is not the Bucs passing game.... they will expose the G-men's secondary. Eli won't be able to screen the Boys to death like he did vs. TB. Only a complete Boys meltdown results in an upset there...


That leaves the two afc games....


Jags- this team has that something, makes me think they keep it really close. Honestly, I'm likely to be on them even down to 10. I may start an argument here, but look at the Patriot's home games this season. Is it really even a debate that this will be the best team they have faced @ home? Garrard's 2ndh performance scares me, as he'd have to play a near perfect game for the Jags to win. However, the Pats surrender 4.4 ypc, & the Jags will adhere to the run game. I think this sets up for a good over play as well...


Chargers may be a good spread play, but I'm not sure if they take it su. Colts D severely underrated, & Rivers on the road= yikes! They did already beat the Colts, but special teams played a huge part. Right now I'm looking at the under....

[homedawg]

vegas lines are up..... nep -11.5 to 12.5 .... keep it growin'