Yes I Want a Change

[BoKnows]

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Skins This 1 is for you!



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Nuff' said:beerbang: Hopefully I did not get Rothko's panties in a wad.......

[Fish2006]

My father-in-law (a proud owner of dozens of guns - he's a collector) has an interesting take on guns.... he once was walking on a street and saw a bunch of older ladies (in their 70s, he said) holding some sort of protest against the NRA or something like that.... so, he walks up to them and asks them a pointed question: "If a criminal breaks into your house and intends to kill you, how would you rather die? With one bullet to your head or 100 stabs with a knife?"

They told him they had never thought of it that way....

Remember that when you're drawing conclusions as to the usefulness of guns in our society.... here's another.... I would imagine that we are the most heavily armed civilian population in the world by a longshot.... ain't nobody invading our ******* country.

See? Now there is something I 100% agree with you on. Guns dont kill people. Bullets kill people.

If guns are responsible for killing people, then spoons are responsible for getting Rosie O'Donnell fat.

[Skinsfan]

My father-in-law (a proud owner of dozens of guns - he's a collector) has an interesting take on guns.... he once was walking on a street and saw a bunch of older ladies (in their 70s, he said) holding some sort of protest against the NRA or something like that.... so, he walks up to them and asks them a pointed question: "If a criminal breaks into your house and intends to kill you, how would you rather die? With one bullet to your head or 100 stabs with a knife?"

They told him they had never thought of it that way....

Remember that when you're drawing conclusions as to the usefulness of guns in our society.... here's another.... I would imagine that we are the most heavily armed civilian population in the world by a longshot.... ain't nobody invading our ******* country.

[dananderson32]

How do we protect ourselves from the criminals with guns? With a show shovel?:laughing:

now your talking in my area of expertise no in all seriousness i wish guns didn't exist at all

[homedawg]

ok let me try to say what i was trying to say before :laughing: :laughing: i don't like guns not a fan of them at all, yes i know you have the right to bear arms HD, just not a fan of guns maybe i shouldn't have said anti-gun but more not a fan of guns in general

How do we protect ourselves from the criminals with guns? With a show shovel?:laughing:

[dananderson32]

anti-gun fan, Why? Because of the crimes commited with the use of guns? I have a right to bear arms, do the criminals?

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ok let me try to say what i was trying to say before :laughing: :laughing: i don't like guns not a fan of them at all, yes i know you have the right to bear arms HD, just not a fan of guns maybe i shouldn't have said anti-gun but more not a fan of guns in general

[homedawg]

good for you... i cling to my beer and my woman :beerbang:

Give me a beer and a woman with a gun!

[homedawg]

im an anti-gun fan myself (don't worry i won't steal your gun or bible) but besides that a girl with a gun when it comes to that time of the month i don't want any girl knowing how to use a gun :hide: :hide:

anti-gun fan, Why? Because of the crimes commited with the use of guns? I have a right to bear arms, do the criminals?

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[Fish2006]

I saw that same Obama tell people in Ohio that NAFTA and Free Trade were to blame for them losing their manufacturing jobs (even though job/industry "rotation" has been happening since the advent of capitalism)... he promised them he would restructure or eliminate NAFTA (even though the manufacturing jobs are going to China)... what he DIDN'T tell those pople in Ohio is that the elimination of free trade programs such as NAFTA would result in food prices moving upwards 200-300 percent very quickly (some economists argue it would be almost instant).... Obama loves to put the "worker hat" on people but refuses to put the "consumer hat" on people... what does that remind you of? I guess I'm just surprised that this Country went toe to toe with communism for roughly 50 years, and now we seem more than willing to open the front door of the white house to them.

Come on, thats not fair, everyone knows at that point he was trying to win Ohio :p

Having studied Soviet style socialism in college, personally, I am happy with neither capitalism nor socialism. The former results in the accumulation of power the longer you do it such that the system is corrupt, and the other is socialism :)

More seriously, I struggle with this one. No incentives mean you end up with nobody doing anything, cause without incentives, nobody will pick up **** jobs voluntarily. Nothing but cash incentives means power accumulates in the hands of too few, making government perform for capital and not for people. Karl Marx got that half right, which is why every generation results in fewer large organizations running everything - the well known concentration of capital.

I don't know the answer. I am reading about a concept called social capitalism, a concept coined by an Indian guy Mohammed Yunus, where companies take their profits and reinvest them in social goals rather than dividends back to shareholders. Apparently, these entities called Grameen entities are quite popular in India, where banks under this charter do a lot of microlending to very poor people.

My head hurts. I need a beer :)

[Skinsfan]

i cling to my shovel and salt in the winter time so i guess i really can't complain :beerbang: :beerbang: :beerbang:

good for you... i cling to my beer and my woman :beerbang:

[Skinsfan]

re:Creationism, a basic law of science is that you have to be able to validate your findings. If we are going to teach that theory, then, as far as I am concerned, you have to teach the theory that the world was created by a Giant Spaghetti Monster too, because I have exactly as much evidence as the creationists do, namely, zero. At some point, you have to draw the line and say that maybe we will let faith be just that, allowing that to be the domain of the church, and leave school to teaching actual science.

Well... we teach our students that we were attacked in the gulf of tonkin which got us into the vietnam war... as it turns out, there was never any validation of that since IT NEVER HAPPENED (recently revealed by... i forget who... but he was a high up military general/admiral back then).... anyhow... that's not science... so it's not a good point... just wanted to throw that out there.

No, you are correct about that basic law of science... but at some point you have to cede to the will/beliefs of the masses, no? At least when it is overwhelming? A poll in 2004 showed that 55% of all Americans believe that God created humans in their present form and a further 27% believe that Humans evolved, but that God guided the process (in other words, God CREATED evolution).... that's 82% of Americans that, in one way or the other, believe in Creationism.... 13% believe that humans evolved and god dit NOT guide the process.... Not sure what happened to the other 5% lol.... anyhow, here is the link:

Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution, Most Americans Do Not Believe Human Beings Evolved - CBS News

[dananderson32]

you know we cling to our guns and our bibles, right? Would rather cling to guns and bibles rather than hammers and sickles.

i cling to my shovel and salt in the winter time so i guess i really can't complain :beerbang: :beerbang: :beerbang:

[Skinsfan]

im an anti-gun fan myself (don't worry i won't steal your gun or bible) but besides that a girl with a gun when it comes to that time of the month i don't want any girl knowing how to use a gun :hide: :hide:

you know we cling to our guns and our bibles, right? Would rather cling to guns and bibles rather than hammers and sickles.

[Skinsfan]

I saw that same Obama tell people in Ohio that NAFTA and Free Trade were to blame for them losing their manufacturing jobs (even though job/industry "rotation" has been happening since the advent of capitalism)... he promised them he would restructure or eliminate NAFTA (even though the manufacturing jobs are going to China)... what he DIDN'T tell those pople in Ohio is that the elimination of free trade programs such as NAFTA would result in food prices moving upwards 200-300 percent very quickly (some economists argue it would be almost instant).... Obama loves to put the "worker hat" on people but refuses to put the "consumer hat" on people... what does that remind you of? I guess I'm just surprised that this Country went toe to toe with communism for roughly 50 years, and now we seem more than willing to open the front door of the white house to them.

[dananderson32]

re:Creationism, a basic law of science is that you have to be able to validate your findings. If we are going to teach that theory, then, as far as I am concerned, you have to teach the theory that the world was created by a Giant Spaghetti Monster too, because I have exactly as much evidence as the creationists do, namely, zero. At some point, you have to draw the line and say that maybe we will let faith be just that, allowing that to be the domain of the church, and leave school to teaching actual science.

agree 100% :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: