***NFL Week 4 Discussion***

[Underdog88]

that's good for Philly Daws, I thought maybe Casey would pan out but it sure doesn't look like it so far...



Do the Saints get up for this game? I think once again they have defensive issues, regardless of what the numbers say they aren't good vs the run (They just played teams without a run game, and the Texans avg over 4 ypc) and they certainly struggle vs the pass. Jax prob won't be able to exploit the pass D, but Jones Drew + turnovers could keep them in this game. Saints on the road really didn't cover big lines last season only two road wins of more than 4 I believe. This will be the Jags first game playing an elite passing team...

[Underdog88]

I think the Bears cover the line. Panthers may be able to amass a bunch of passing yards, but I could see the Bears forcing turnovers. It's the ebb and flow of things.... Bears look horrid vs GB then beat up the Panthers. I think good Cutler plays today, bad Cutler again on the road next week....

[MrDecipher]

My list of plays (got my fingers crossed cause this week has been BRUTAL)

Lions +3-125 (had to put this on 3)
Rams +3-115
Steel city +3.5

those are my plays for the early games ... Best Of Luck to you all ..

[DukiesBaby]

Am i stretching for a pick?

i have a weird feeling their is alot of value in colts +465 money line


Curtis Painter gets his first start, normally you would fade this guy, but from the little i saw he could be the answer the colts need to get some offensive production, the guy has a quick release, unlike kerry statute collins, also he has really no pressure, not real high expectations of him to do great, just manage the game and complete some passes for first downs, i mean no hype surrounding him on tv for hist first game, its not like sam bradford or andy dalton or cam newton starting for their teams, i havent even heard the tv talk about this game or mention painter starting, i had to look it up on espn and read it, i expect espn tomorrow night in pregame to pound out their point of view on how painter is not very good, and he making his first start vs this very good tampa team with the up & coming josh freeman, well mr freeman, where was that special skills at vs atlanta, you looked awful and atlanta's secondary sucks, and their pass rush is nothing compared to what your gonna face monday night, from what i see there is 50-50 betting on this game at the spread, i just find it hard to believe that many people agree with me that the colts can keep this a game, i mean if u think the colts actually can keep this game close why not take a shot at +465, all my friends say i am "stretching" for a pick for action because they think there is no way in hell colts win this game, especially with painter at qb... so confused why i feel like the only one who thinks the colts are gonna win tomorrow... if anyone else here like colts tomorrow let me know your thoughts. all you tampa backers drop me a line here as to why i might be mislead here...