Week 7 Discussion

[wsox08]

Anyone have thoughts on....

Kansas State -6 vs. Colorado, KSU coming off of loss at kansas

Oklahoma-Missouri OVER 61

South Carolina -7 @ North Carolina, rivalry game, both teams coming off huge wins

Nebraska -4 vs. Oklahoma State, Neb coming off the blowout loss


Thanks

[wsox08]

I've had problems with betting for/against the Illini this year. It's been a good year and they can run it down your throat but in a hostile environment like Kinnick I can see this one being closer than you'd expect. Also, Iowa is coming off a poor performance, while Illini is high as can be and could be looking ahead to next week.


I think I'll pass and find better games.

[Nigel Tufnel]

IMO the Illini cash boat has sailed.... you just know the whole world will be on them as road faves this week. Not me, I'm strongly leaning Iowa. Of course Illinois looks good, they are coming off 2 big wins at home, & Iowa has lost 4 straight including a terrible performance @ PSU. Well, 3 of those losses were on the road, with the 1 home loss to Indiana (who has their number). I just don't see Iowa coming back home & allowing Illinois to run all over them. I think instead you'll see a defense focused on stopping the run & a Big 10 home win for Iowa...

Ah, man...total mind **** now. This is one of those lines...if you bet it and lose, you think, "man, I knew that was too good to be true.." If you don't bet it and the Illini win by DDs, you're thinking, "damn, that line was the gift of the century..I knew I should have put 1 TRILLION dollars on it."

I'm learning...slowly but surely....if the gut says "JUMP IN!" Sit back and think about it. I'll probably watch the money and line movement on this one before I decide. If this turns out to be one of those 70% of the public is on Dallas and line hasn't moved, then I just lay off.

Gonna have to wait on this one. Even if I have to eat some points.

Gotta love predictem.

:beerbang:

[Q-Unit]

Hey Q, any thoughts on your RRaiders? I'm leaning towards a TTech, LSU, Cincy teaser....

ESPN - Texas Tech: Vick-themed A&M T-shirt for the dogs - College Football

get a T-Shirt. LOL

A&M won't get any motivation from this....

well maybe, I hear goats arent the only animals to be sodomized down there :eeek: LOL

(joking..sorta) I mean everyone always bashes us for our high STD rate, but geez have you seen the girls down here? its a better tradeoff than say...rabies or lyme disease!!!

as for relevant info.

shyt I have never seen a line this high in tech's favor vs. the aggies.

my friend told me the D looked crazy aggressive last week vs. Iowa St. not really an O juggernaut, but nevertheless a step in the right direction ever since we got a new D coord after the Ok-State fiasco.

Aggies give up a lot of pass YDs so that favors Tech. and Crabtree is sick.

not a stretch to say he is the best receiver in the nation, better than Malcolm Kelly even.

just watch him.

I am leaning towards tech of course, either a play on them or no play at all. no way I'm taking the aggies.

[Underdog88]

Hey Q, any thoughts on your RRaiders? I'm leaning towards a TTech, LSU, Cincy teaser....

[Underdog88]

:thumbs:

Also Warriors-3.5 over Lakers tonight :thumbs:

[Q-Unit]

IMO the Illini cash boat has sailed.... you just know the whole world will be on them as road faves this week. Not me, I'm strongly leaning Iowa. Of course Illinois looks good, they are coming off 2 big wins at home, & Iowa has lost 4 straight including a terrible performance @ PSU. Well, 3 of those losses were on the road, with the 1 home loss to Indiana (who has their number). I just don't see Iowa coming back home & allowing Illinois to run all over them. I think instead you'll see a defense focused on stopping the run & a Big 10 home win for Iowa...

:thumbs:

[Underdog88]

IMO the Illini cash boat has sailed.... you just know the whole world will be on them as road faves this week. Not me, I'm strongly leaning Iowa. Of course Illinois looks good, they are coming off 2 big wins at home, & Iowa has lost 4 straight including a terrible performance @ PSU. Well, 3 of those losses were on the road, with the 1 home loss to Indiana (who has their number). I just don't see Iowa coming back home & allowing Illinois to run all over them. I think instead you'll see a defense focused on stopping the run & a Big 10 home win for Iowa...

[Nigel Tufnel]

redsfann

i moved down to houston after i graduated 4 yrs ago and havent been to a game since. was close to getting a ticket to last years osu game then thought the better of it. was also gonna go to the alamo game last yr but decided to stay in iowa for christmas and new years.

i got in on illinois at -3 and if you feel uncomfortable then just buy the 1/2 point. i think the hook works a little differently in college than the pros. and to put it this way, i normally never put over 2 units on a game, and i got 8.5 to win 7 on illinois. normally i dont like to put all my eggs in one basket, but i took the bait this time. ive watched every iowa game but the niu game, and ive seen the last two illini games. i put no stock into iowa playing wisky close, as everyone plays wisky close. i think illini hammer iowa and i expect illini to go to michigan and get the w there as well. mendenhall and benn are for real. juice lethal on the ground as well. i guess well see what happens, gl!

Damn, man...now you're scaring me. DISCLAIMER: I mean nothing personal by this...just history scares me about this statement. Lots of times when I'm as down as you are about a team...or my team...I end of putting a lot of cash against them, and they show up. Half way through the game, I'm thinking, "well, I'll lose cash...but at least WE WON!!"

Have you lost all faith in Ferentz? I mean, two years ago, this guy was the second coming of Lombardi. Is this team so bad, and Ferentz so inept, that he couldn't come up with a game plan to check the Illini?

I'm sorry...its just experience here....whenever I see something that looks too good to be true...it usually is. Ah Christ.....how much to put on the Illini...LOL!!

[hodown]

redsfann

i moved down to houston after i graduated 4 yrs ago and havent been to a game since. was close to getting a ticket to last years osu game then thought the better of it. was also gonna go to the alamo game last yr but decided to stay in iowa for christmas and new years.

i got in on illinois at -3 and if you feel uncomfortable then just buy the 1/2 point. i think the hook works a little differently in college than the pros. and to put it this way, i normally never put over 2 units on a game, and i got 8.5 to win 7 on illinois. normally i dont like to put all my eggs in one basket, but i took the bait this time. ive watched every iowa game but the niu game, and ive seen the last two illini games. i put no stock into iowa playing wisky close, as everyone plays wisky close. i think illini hammer iowa and i expect illini to go to michigan and get the w there as well. mendenhall and benn are for real. juice lethal on the ground as well. i guess well see what happens, gl!

[NittanyLions94]

Nittany...I absolutely positively love CMU, BGSU and Purdue too! :beerbang:

Joe, I really can't figure out a way that Army stop CMU from scoring. The only team to stop them so far is Kansas, whom we now know is much better than we though when they first met. The only angle I can see for Army is that CMU travels to Death Valley in Clemson next week and there may be a look ahead spot this week, but I highly doubt it.

[redsfann]

and to actually further my case on illinois, just look at the last 3 opponents for each, all of whom are common (indiana, penn state, and wisconsin). heres the breakdown

offense pass rush total
illinois 113 377 490
iowa 208 76 284

defense pass rush total
illinois 317 130 447
iowa 231 165 396

avg score
illinois 28 to 20
iowa 13 to 27

illinois can be had through the air but not by iowa. top 3 receiving threats gone for the year and christensen looks lost in the pocket, at 54% right now. team rushing not helping, avg 3.3 ypc. offensively in the big 10, iowa is last in total yards, last in scoring, last in rushing, second to last in passing.

statistically, the iowa defense has fared much better. but opening with niu, syracuse, isu will help that out. the game against wisky was conservative for both teams, not surprising being that bielema has iowa roots. it was a no-brainer indiana would cut up iowa, because they do every year and parker cant stop the spread. the surprising one was psu, whos very average offense went for 490 total, 257 of that on the ground.

point is, iowa has gotten worse every game of the year since the syracuse game. they looked bad against isu, avg against wisky, very bad against indiana, and terrible against psu. illinois has much better team speed on both sides of the ball, and they have a great chance to go 10-2 this year and earn a possible bcs birth. iowa and illinois dont like each other, so there is a small chance of illinois looking ahead. iowa is +7 in the turnover category this year, so even if illinois turns it over a ton, iowa obviously isnt capitalizing. and the final thought that might scare people is that the game is at kinnick. go check out the message boards at rivals and see how happy fans are right now with the job kf has done. it goes against my major conference homedawg trend, but so be it. I think Illinois wins this by 17, but just my thoughts.

Well done, hodown. Can't really add anything about how pathetic our Hawkeyes are right now, and normally I'd be worried about this line @ -3.5 as well. But I have a hard time seeing this team win another game all year, and they still have Western Michigan on the slate--but its the last game of the year, it will probably be cold and the stands, while not empty, may have some gaping holes in them.
Speaking of stands, do you go to the games? I've got season tickets and we tailgate over at the top of Myrtle Ave.

[bookiekilla]

Real tough game Bookie...Both of those teams are extremely inconsistent and you never know which is going to show up. The Miami who was down 27-0 to UNC at half or the one that dominated Texas A&M? The GT team that shutdown Clemson and beat ND by 30, or the one that lost to Virginia and Maryland?

Too much uncertainty for me. If this was at GT, I probably would take the +3, but considering its in Miami, I'll leave it alone.

I hear ya...it's gonna be GT or no play for me. I'm leaning very strongly towards GT this week, but that's probably just me being a gt homer...going to look more into this game as the week goes on...

[MParris86]

Real tough game Bookie...Both of those teams are extremely inconsistent and you never know which is going to show up. The Miami who was down 27-0 to UNC at half or the one that dominated Texas A&M? The GT team that shutdown Clemson and beat ND by 30, or the one that lost to Virginia and Maryland?

Too much uncertainty for me. If this was at GT, I probably would take the +3, but considering its in Miami, I'll leave it alone.

[bookiekilla]

somebody PLEASE convince me that Georgia Tech is not a good play this weekend...the jackets are getting 3 points at miami, and I just think that the Tech defense is going to have a field day with Kyle wright.....This jackets team is so frustrating to watch and be a fan of...they've got the talent on this team to be a lot better than a 3-3 team....they just play better when nobody thinks they can win..and that's the case here....after losing to Maryland last week in a game they should've, now nobody (atleast locally) is giving them a chance against miami....miami??? this is the same team that lost to UNC last weak, correct?