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  • Originally posted by dananderson32 View Post
    Obama's State! :thumbs:

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    • Originally posted by homedawg View Post
      Obama's State! :thumbs:
      nice response still yet to discuss the blunt racism on the mccain trail
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      • Originally posted by dananderson32 View Post
        nice response still yet to discuss the blunt racism on the mccain trail
        IMHO, those remarks are unacceptable! :thumbs:
        There are going to be "bad apples in the bunch"! Obama supporters have bushels of them!

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        • To all those critics saying McCain is too old? :laughing: McCain is working more hours right now, than most Americans are! :thumbs:

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            • Originally posted by dananderson32 View Post
              and another state sees the light

              Conn. court overturns same-sex marriage ban - Life - MSNBC.com


              3/50 and only increasing :beerbang: :beerbang: :beerbang:


              The next time you are having a bad day, imagine this:

              You're a Siamese twin.

              Your brother, attached at your shoulder, is gay.

              You're not.

              He has a date coming over tonight.

              You only have one ass.



              :beer2:

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              • For Palin, some pork is kosher


                Kenneth P. Vogel Kenneth P. Vogel – 1 hr 23 mins ago
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                Last year, when a Juneau Pentecostal church asked the Alaska state government for cash for a new youth center, Gov. Sarah Palin, who had recently started worshipping at the church, vetoed the legislative appropriation from the capital budget, explaining it was “not a state responsibility.”

                But by the time this year’s budget negotiations rolled around, Palin had become very involved in the Juneau Christian Center, attending an increasing number of services there, touring the youth center with her family, citing the pastor as among her spiritual guides, and appearing with the pastor at a Martin Luther King Day celebration and a religious conference where he laid hands on her while praying.

                During this year’s capital budget writing process, Palin penned a letter to lawmakers “in support of the Juneau Christian Center’s new state-of-the-art youth center,” and she approved $25,000 for the center in May, even as she sparked a backlash from officials around the state for slashing spending from projects they deemed crucial to their areas.

                Her reversal on the church funding is one small example of what both her critics and supporters in both parties in Alaska say is a trend in Palin’s political track record: She supports spending taxpayer cash on initiatives that tickle her fancy, even as she rails against funding for other — sometimes similar — projects and does little to slow overall government spending.

                It’s a pattern that runs counter to the cost-cutting, anti-pork crusader persona that Palin has fashioned for herself from the dawn of her political career in the hometown municipal politics of Wasilla, Alaska, through her 22 months as Alaska’s governor, and now in her surprise turn as John McCain’s running mate on the Republican presidential ticket.

                On the campaign trail, Palin’s denouncements of wasteful government expenditures — and her boasts of vetoing “nearly a half a billion dollars in reckless spending” from Alaska’s capital budget — dovetail with McCain’s own pledges to veto pork barrel spending.

                But Palin over the years has approved billions of taxpayer dollars for discretionary projects, including some to which she had personal, political or parochial connections.

                From the $25,000 for the Juneau Christian Center to $2 million for an academic conference meant to dispel the broadly-accepted idea that climate change is threatening polar bears (she actually preferred the money be used for the state’s lawsuit arguing the bears shouldn’t be listed as threatened) to $630,000 for a kitchen in a hockey arena complex the self-described hockey mom built during her second term as Wasilla’s mayor, Palin has tended to approve line items in Alaska’s capital budget — essentially the state version of federal earmarks — for projects favored by her and her supporters.

                “Anything she proposed is a good earmark,” said Bob Weinstein, mayor of Ketchikan, Alaska, and a supporter of Palin’s Democratic rival Barack Obama. “Anything that somebody else proposes is not necessarily a good earmark,” added Weinstein, whose city was stung when Palin last year withdrew her support from the infamous bridge to nowhere, which would have connected Ketchikan to its airport.

                On the campaign trail, Palin joined McCain in denouncing the bridge as epitomizing government waste. But Weinstein points out that Palin has not withdrawn her support for the Knik Arm Crossing, which has also been lampooned as a "bridge to nowhere,” but which would cut commute times for Palin’s neighbors in Wasilla and the surrounding Matanuska-Susitna — or Mat-Su — Valley.

                Maria Comella, a spokeswoman for Palin, pointed out that Palin has called for an independent cost analysis of the Knik Arm bridge before there’s any further state action. Comella said the Juneau church’s teen center had widespread community support and that Palin “saw firsthand how this nonprofit organization meets community needs.”

                As for Palin’s overarching approach to government spending, Comella said Palin has fulfilled pledges to fight wasteful spending and reduce pork and inefficiencies “by cutting more than $500 million from the state budget in the last two years, vetoing wasteful spending and putting an $8 billion surplus to good use, including setting aside billions of dollars in the state's savings account.”

                Palin did, in fact, veto $499 million alone in state lawmakers’ hometown projects from the two capital budgets that came across her desk as governor.

                But absent from her stump speech and campaign talking points is that the $4.8 billion in capital spending she approved ($3.2 billion of which was proposed by her own office) made her average capital budget $264 million a year costlier than those signed into law by her predecessor Frank Murkowski, whom she had blasted as a free-spender during her 2006 Republican primary campaign against him.

                Likewise, Palin had campaigned for mayor of Wasilla pledging to slash government spending. Once in office, however, she spent heavily on big-ticket projects — including the hockey complex, which was primarily funded by a $15 million voter-approved bond but was still requiring payments from the city last year, and major street and water improvement projects. She also managed to find at least $10,000 to help fund the snowmobile race her husband has won several times. All told, she took the city’s long-term debt from $1 million when she took office to $25 million when she left.

                To be sure, both Wasilla and Alaska were raking in revenue during her stints at the helm — the city from rapid retail expansion, which brought a growth in sales taxes that allowed her to cut property taxes, and the state from taxes on oil companies, which she increased, allowing the state to sock away $7 billion while suspending its gas tax and adding $1,200 a year to its payments to citizens.

                But during her tenures as both mayor and governor, operating budgets ballooned by 55 percent in Wasilla and 25 percent in Alaska.

                It was easier — and splashier — for Palin to slash the capital budget than to rein in the operating budget, said state Sen. Bert Stedman, a Republican who co-chairs the Senate Finance Committee.

                “Vetoes make great sound bites, politically,” he said, “but the capital budget is not the side of the equation that will cause long-term troubles for any state. The issue is growth of the operating account, because you’ve got to feed it every year, regardless if you have excess revenue or if you have tight years.”

                Stedman, who said he supports Palin and is “very proud of her being nominated on the VP ticket,” nonetheless said she based her vetoes on “arbitrary decisions” and did not consistently adhere to the criteria she said she used for approving funding for capital projects: that they be related to education, public safety, health or infrastructure.

                In 2007, Palin slashed funding from the capital budget for 40 sports-related projects, ranging from school baseball and soccer fields to $2.5 million in roof repairs at an Anchorage arena, because she asserted sports did not constitute an essential government service. Yet she approved cash for Wasilla’s hockey complex and several other sports projects in the Mat-Su Valley, including new lights at one high school field and new bleachers at another.

                And after this year’s round of capital budget cuts, officials in the Mat-Su Valley, unlike those in many other parts of the state, expressed relief that their top projects were mostly spared Palin’s veto ax.

                On the flip side, last year leaders in Anchorage complained that their capital projects got shortchanged. A state budget analysis obtained by Politico shows the vetoes last year and this year inordinately zeroed out projects in Southeast Alaska and the Kenai Peninsula — areas represented by some of the lawmakers who most often butted heads publicly with Palin, including Stedman.

                “There were projects that I was astounded were vetoed in light of some of the projects that made it in the Mat-Su Valley, and particularly Wasilla,” said Bruce Botelho, the mayor of the state capital of Juneau, located in the southeastern part of the state.

                Palin eliminated the $347,000 Juneau was seeking to improve safety at its schools, access to a park and drainage at a city ball field, and she slashed in half the $2.8 million the city was seeking for its top priority, an extension of power lines to a weather-monitoring station essential for its airport.

                Meanwhile, Botelho also wrote a letter supporting the Juneau Christian youth center’s state funding request, even though he said the city considered it a low funding priority and that he wrote letters supporting many local nonprofits seeking state cash.

                In fact, Juneau’s City Assembly rejected the church’s request for $45,000 from the city, partly because the arrangement raised church-state separation concerns for some City Assembly members.

                “That was my judgment,” said Botelho, an Obama supporter, who noted that funding the center would “kind of open the Pandora’s Box.”

                Representatives from the church, which created a separate nonprofit group to run the youth center, did not return telephone and e-mail messages from Politico inquiring about Palin’s involvement with the church or the funding push.

                “She’s certainly in a position to favor those projects that she likes and that satisfy her personal interests,” said Botelho. “Every executive has that prerogative.”

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                • Sarah Palin destroys loudmouth liberal heckler during speech


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                  • Barack Obama's Skeleton Closet!

                    #1-Obama was not born in the U.S.A./ not a U.S. citizen

                    Obama's Birth Certificate:

                    The ORIGINAL birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

                    The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website:

                    - The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
                    - It isn't signed.
                    - No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
                    - In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
                    - The certificate number is blacked out.
                    - The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
                    - The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
                    - The document doesn't show father's full name!
                    - The document shows the father's race as: African?

                    Obama Crimes

                    __________________________________________________ ______

                    #2 Obama Was Born, Raised, Is a Muslim

                    -Obama was born to Generations of Muslims

                    -Obama was raised for years in Muslim Nations

                    -Obama attended Muslim schools, where he was registered as a Muslim

                    -Obama wants you to believe that his opportunistic conversion to Christianity after being born to generations of Muslims who raised him for years in Muslim nations where he attended Muslim schools has completely eliminated his Islamic Roots and changed his Muslim sympathies.

                    -Obama’s church of 20 years gave many awards to the radical, anti-white, pro-Islamic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

                    -Obama has been praised and endorsed by the Islamic terrorist group Hamas

                    -Obama has been praised and endorsed by Palestinian Rashid Khalidi, who also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

                    -Obama has praised and endorsed, in his autobiography, the founder first President of Nation of Islam President Malcom X

                    -Brother: Muslim ”Obama’s brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as the Senator recounted in his book when describing his 1992 wedding. “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”Abongo “argues that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.” He urged his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

                    -Sister: Muslim In an interview with the New York Times, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half sister, told the Times, “I don’t want to deny Islam. I think it’s obviously very important that we have an understanding of Islam ... my brother has been a Christian for (only) 20 years.

                    -Father: Muslim Obama Sr. (Senior) was born in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya.

                    -Step Father: Muslim Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo ws a devout Muslim and Obama went to Mosque on Fridays with him.

                    -Mother: Muslim The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”

                    -Grandfather: lived for a time in Zanzibar, where he converted from Christianity to Islam. He was one of the first Muslim converts in his village.
                    Grandfather, for whom Obama was given the middle name, Hussein, was "fiercely devoted to Islam." He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama.

                    -Obama’s teachers and the principal from the 1970's: Obama actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his years at his school in Muslim Indonesia. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

                    -The Obama Campaign: told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.” (3/14/2007).

                    - Obama states his "Muslim Faith". Obama acknowledged his Islamic Heritage Sunday, September 7, 2008 during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week", speaking of "My Muslim Faith".


                    The Obama File
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                    #3 Obama's association with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground.

                    -Despite having authored two autobiographies, Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.

                    -The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

                    -Documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago

                    - In early 1995, Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy.

                    -Obama has misrepresented his relationship with Ayers to the press and someone blocked access to the records detailing the workings of the group founded by Ayers and chaired by Obama.

                    The Real Barack Obama
                    __________________________________________
                    #4 Obama's relationship with Tony "slum landlord" Rezko

                    -They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

                    -Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers -- primarily not-for-profit groups -- building low-income housing with government funds.

                    -One of the firm's not-for-profit clients -- the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama's then-boss Allison Davis -- was partners with Rezko's company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator's time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm's clients in four later deals -- none of which involved Obama, according to the firm. In each deal, Rezmar "made the decisions for the joint venture," says William Miceli, an attorney with the firm.

                    -In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

                    -Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

                    -In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

                    -A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

                    -Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity.

                    -Using his elected office and his clout, Obama helped Tony Rezko and other unscrupulous low-income housing developers obtain millions of dollars in state grants, tax credits, low-interest loans, and regulatory advantages.
                    ___________________________________________
                    #5 Obama and Corruption in ACORN


                    -Obama and ACORN, Fellow Travelers. “ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days.

                    -Obama Formerly Represented ACORN, Taught Classes For Future Leaders Of ACORN

                    - Obama Worked As Executive Director Of ACORN’s Voter-Registration Arm, Project Vote.

                    -Obama Was Part Of Team Of Lawyers Who Represented ACORN In A Suit Against The State Of Illinois.

                    -ACORN's Political Action Committee Endorsed Obama.

                    -Obama's Campaign Paid Over $800,000 To ACORN For Get-Out-The-Vote Efforts

                    -Obama Praised ACORN For Being A Good Ally



                    The Real Barack Obama

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                    Welcome to NOBAMA

                    NObama - Not Now, Not Ever

                    HELL NObama.
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                    MORE TRUTH, TO COME!
                    Last edited by homedawg; 10-10-2008, 04:49 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by homedawg View Post
                      The next time you are having a bad day, imagine this:

                      You're a Siamese twin.

                      Your brother, attached at your shoulder, is gay.

                      You're not.

                      He has a date coming over tonight.

                      You only have one ass.



                      :beer2:
                      and whats the percentage of Siamese twins in America ? 3/50 states and counting :beerbang: :beerbang:
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                      • Originally posted by homedawg View Post

                        Barack Obama's Skeleton Closet!

                        #1-Obama was not born in the U.S.A./ not a U.S. citizen

                        Obama's Birth Certificate:

                        The ORIGINAL birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

                        The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website:

                        - The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
                        - It isn't signed.
                        - No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
                        - In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
                        - The certificate number is blacked out.
                        - The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
                        - The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
                        - The document doesn't show father's full name!
                        - The document shows the father's race as: African?

                        Obama Crimes

                        __________________________________________________ ______

                        [/B]
                        Candidates meet 'natural-born' test despite rumors

                        By ANN SANNER – 1 hour ago

                        WASHINGTON (AP) — As John McCain and Barack Obama vie to become president, certain fevered voices persist in saying they should not even be allowed to try.

                        In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, critics of the candidates argue that each does not qualify to run for the White House because he's not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

                        Obama plainly is, because he was born in the U.S.

                        McCain qualifies, too, although the circumstances of his birth — on a U.S. naval base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 — were unusual enough to merit a review.

                        In California, U.S. District Judge William Alsup threw out a lawsuit seeking to remove McCain from the state's ballot because of his birthplace.

                        Alsup ruled in September that McCain was essentially a qualifying citizen two times over — first, because both his parents were U.S. citizens, which satisfied eligibility rules of the time; and because a law passed a year after his birth retroactively recognizing people born in the zone as natural-born Americans.

                        McCain's father was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone with the U.S. Navy.

                        The Constitution requires that only "natural-born" citizens hold the presidency. But the Founding Fathers did not elaborate on the term, so bloggers and others have had a field day.

                        Theories abound that Obama actually was born abroad and that his birth certificate, proving he was born in Hawaii, is a fake.

                        Obama was born in Honolulu in 1961, two years after Hawaii became a state. He is the son of a Kenyan father and a mother from Kansas, who met and married in Hawaii. After the marriage failed, a 6-year-old Obama left Hawaii to spend four years in Indonesia with his mother and Indonesian stepfather. In 1971, when he was 10, Obama's mother sent him back to Honolulu to stay with his maternal grandparents.

                        In response to the allegations, Obama's campaign in June posted the Illinois senator's birth certificate on his campaign Web site, Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barack’s Birth Certificate.

                        The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.

                        Even so, a lawsuit challenging Obama's candidacy was filed in August in a U.S. District Court in Pennsylvania and is still pending.

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                        • Originally posted by homedawg View Post

                          Barack Obama's Skeleton Closet!

                          #1-Obama was not born in the U.S.A./ not a U.S. citizen

                          Obama's Birth Certificate:

                          The ORIGINAL birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

                          The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website:

                          - The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
                          - It isn't signed.
                          - No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
                          - In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
                          - The certificate number is blacked out.
                          - The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
                          - The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
                          - The document doesn't show father's full name!
                          - The document shows the father's race as: African?

                          Obama Crimes

                          FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.


                          Born in the U.S.A.
                          August 21, 2008
                          Updated: August 26, 2008
                          The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
                          Summary
                          In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

                          We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
                          Analysis
                          Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

                          Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

                          Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

                          Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

                          Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

                          Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.

                          Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

                          * The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
                          * It isn't signed.
                          * No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
                          * In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
                          * The certificate number is blacked out.
                          * The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
                          * The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."

                          Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


                          The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


                          Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


                          The raised seal


                          Blowup of text

                          You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

                          The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

                          The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

                          The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

                          We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.


                          Blowup of certificate number

                          Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

                          We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

                          We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

                          In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:


                          Obama's birth announcement


                          The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
                          Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

                          Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

                          When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

                          –by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller

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                          • Corey, did you see the "vault" document? :thumbs:

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                            • Barack Obama's Skeleton Closet!

                              #1-Obama was not born in the U.S.A./ not a U.S. citizen

                              Obama's Birth Certificate:

                              The ORIGINAL birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

                              The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website:

                              - The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
                              - It isn't signed.
                              - No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
                              - In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
                              - The certificate number is blacked out.
                              - The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
                              - The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
                              - The document doesn't show father's full name!
                              - The document shows the father's race as: African?

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                              #2 Obama Was Born, Raised, Is a Muslim

                              -Obama was born to Generations of Muslims

                              -Obama was raised for years in Muslim Nations

                              -Obama attended Muslim schools, where he was registered as a Muslim

                              -Obama wants you to believe that his opportunistic conversion to Christianity after being born to generations of Muslims who raised him for years in Muslim nations where he attended Muslim schools has completely eliminated his Islamic Roots and changed his Muslim sympathies.

                              -Obama’s church of 20 years gave many awards to the radical, anti-white, pro-Islamic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

                              -Obama has been praised and endorsed by the Islamic terrorist group Hamas

                              -Obama has been praised and endorsed by Palestinian Rashid Khalidi, who also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

                              -Obama has praised and endorsed, in his autobiography, the founder first President of Nation of Islam President Malcom X

                              -Brother: Muslim ”Obama’s brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as the Senator recounted in his book when describing his 1992 wedding. “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”Abongo “argues that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.” He urged his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

                              -Sister: Muslim In an interview with the New York Times, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half sister, told the Times, “I don’t want to deny Islam. I think it’s obviously very important that we have an understanding of Islam ... my brother has been a Christian for (only) 20 years.

                              -Father: Muslim Obama Sr. (Senior) was born in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya.

                              -Step Father: Muslim Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo ws a devout Muslim and Obama went to Mosque on Fridays with him.

                              -Mother: Muslim The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”

                              -Grandfather: lived for a time in Zanzibar, where he converted from Christianity to Islam. He was one of the first Muslim converts in his village.
                              Grandfather, for whom Obama was given the middle name, Hussein, was "fiercely devoted to Islam." He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama.

                              -Obama’s teachers and the principal from the 1970's: Obama actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his years at his school in Muslim Indonesia. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

                              -The Obama Campaign: told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.” (3/14/2007).

                              - Obama states his "Muslim Faith". Obama acknowledged his Islamic Heritage Sunday, September 7, 2008 during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week", speaking of "My Muslim Faith".


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                              #3 Obama's association with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground.

                              -Despite having authored two autobiographies, Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.

                              -The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

                              -Documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago

                              - In early 1995, Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy.

                              -Obama has misrepresented his relationship with Ayers to the press and someone blocked access to the records detailing the workings of the group founded by Ayers and chaired by Obama.

                              The Real Barack Obama
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                              #4 Obama's relationship with Tony "slum landlord" Rezko

                              -They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

                              -Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers -- primarily not-for-profit groups -- building low-income housing with government funds.

                              -One of the firm's not-for-profit clients -- the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama's then-boss Allison Davis -- was partners with Rezko's company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator's time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm's clients in four later deals -- none of which involved Obama, according to the firm. In each deal, Rezmar "made the decisions for the joint venture," says William Miceli, an attorney with the firm.

                              -In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

                              -Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

                              -In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

                              -A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

                              -Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity.

                              -Using his elected office and his clout, Obama helped Tony Rezko and other unscrupulous low-income housing developers obtain millions of dollars in state grants, tax credits, low-interest loans, and regulatory advantages.
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                              #5 Obama and Corruption in ACORN


                              -Obama and ACORN, Fellow Travelers. “ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days.

                              -Obama Formerly Represented ACORN, Taught Classes For Future Leaders Of ACORN

                              - Obama Worked As Executive Director Of ACORN’s Voter-Registration Arm, Project Vote.

                              -Obama Was Part Of Team Of Lawyers Who Represented ACORN In A Suit Against The State Of Illinois.

                              -ACORN's Political Action Committee Endorsed Obama.

                              -Obama's Campaign Paid Over $800,000 To ACORN For Get-Out-The-Vote Efforts

                              -Obama Praised ACORN For Being A Good Ally



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                              • It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.


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