***Week 8 Discussion***

[yomonte]

Also, I grabbed Indy - 6 1/2 as soon as I seen it. Peyton doesn't have the weopons Brady does, but Peyton's ability to read defenses gives him some edge. I don't think Car has a chance with the one week wonder. He's had two weeks to get it together and learning the schemes is alot different that actually performing them. Just pick the winner with lines of 7 or less and they will cover is quite amazing this year averaging 1 a week. Indy and NE are the exceptions to all the crap I keep track of. Trend busters so to speak.

[hodown]

with dilfer at the helm, the niners might be the worst team in the league. its gonna be hard to lay on them, even if the saints are a little overrated after 2 in a row.

of the last 9 between pit/cinci, the road team has won 8 s/u. cinci with an absolutely horrific defense, but they are 2-1 at home with the lone loss coming to ne. also this game is a rivalry game, cinci has the better sos, and is an absolute must-win for cinci.

stlouis starting to get healthy and getting points at home against cleveland. thats enuf for me.

carolina a sneaky 4-2, colts coming off a big win at jax on monday nite and a big game with ne looms. indi is the king of winning on the road but not covering. carr should be ready to go, who really cares but it is an upgrade from vinnie. public will be heavy on indi after mondays performance, i think indi wins but doesnt get the cover.

vikes/philly, not sure why peterson splits carries with taylor, but its been that way the whole season when both have been healthy. philly slightly better in overall offense and defense, and philly has been very stiff on rush defense this year. both teams are 2-4, pub slightly on minny, odd that philly is favored here, which makes me wonder if philly isnt the play

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Also, I grabbed Indy - 6 1/2 as soon as I seen it. Peyton doesn't have the weopons Brady does, but Peyton's ability to read defenses gives him some edge. I don't think Car has a chance with the one week wonder. He's had two weeks to get it together and learning the schemes is alot different that actually performing them. Just pick the winner with lines of 7 or less and they will cover is quite amazing this year averaging 1 a week. Indy and NE are the exceptions to all the crap I keep track of. Trend busters so to speak.

I agree....Peyton vs Vinny....wow.....and it's not like Carolina has played well this year...they've been pretty much ****....yeah they're 4-2, but with close wins over the likes of NO, ATL, STL & Zona. Real step up in talent on both sides of the ball for the Panthers here. I was real surprised to see this under a TD.....GL, Yo!!

[Horfin]

Here is the crap that jumped out at me first:

NYG-MIA - RB hurt doesn't matter, Bring back Ricky Tokin' Williams! I think the travel factor hurts the better team. Hell you can't be worse than 0-7. I like Miami with all those juicey points.

GB-DEN - I think the wrong team is favored. GB off a bye on MNF. Gimme GB with the points.

Cleveland-ST Louis - I have sucked at totals this season, but the 43.5 seems awfully high.

Phil/Minn - Minn should be 3 point favorite, not a Pick.

SF/NO - Game shouldn't be a pickem...too much emphasis on the massive two game winning streak by NO.

Tenn-Oak - Line is WAY too BIG. I hope it gets bet down so I can play on my Titans...Probably be a No Play for me or the first time I am against Titans.

Horfin

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Cleveland-ST Louis - I have sucked at totals this season, but the 43.5 seems awfully high.

I agree with all your observations....but I tend to agree with UD on that Cle/STL total. I might play a rare total this week, and take that Over. Browns have a pretty potent offence, ranked 4th in PPG, with lots of weapons, and a piss-poor defence ranked last in the whole league. STL getting healthy on the offensive side of the ball with Bulger, Jackson, Holt & Bruce ready to put up some points this week at home...add in a dome stadium, and there's a very good chance this this goes way over.

This might be one of only 2 or 3 total wagers I make all year, so I was surprised to see you comment on the other side...lol....GL Horf....hope you have another great week...I agree with your sides leans! :beerbang:

[Horfin]

JML

The fact that I am inclined under and you like the over is probably a good thing for you. I have my record updated at home and will post it in my thread, but I swear on totals I began 3-1 in week 1 and then went something horrific like 3-10 or worse.

I shied away from totals last two weeks and made money.

Horfin

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

JML

The fact that I am inclined under and you like the over is probably a good thing for you. I have my record updated at home and will post it in my thread, but I swear on totals I began 3-1 in week 1 and then went something horrific like 3-10 or worse.

I shied away from totals last two weeks and made money.

Horfin

I suck at totals too, so who knows, lol! :dunno:

We've now janxed each side of this total, so maybe we're back to where we started! :laughing:

[homedawg]

43.5 seems awfully high.

what usually happens when 2 ****ty defenses get together.....:beer2: Imo ether 1 of these teams could give up that number alone.... stl not a scoring machine on the road, but at home, they have scored 48 points in last 2 games... and cle has been puttin' up big points since DA took over the team...

[COACH DITKA]

Would everyone agree this is finally when the Pats run of covering comes to an end? I mean, yeah the 'Skins aren't the most prolific of offensive teams. Still, can't imagine NE not looking ahead to next game in Indy. Plus, the 'Skins got a very solid D. If they can muster up any kind of pass rush of Brady, this can be very interesting. The corners ain't too shabby plus Taylor and Landry can flat-out bring the wood. Watson has been ruled out already and I wouldn't be surprised to see another target of Brady getting carried off w/those safeties back there.
Also, Panthers at home could be possible to cover, depending on where the line goes (also due to a potential look-ahead), though the idea of Carolina being led by a 90 year man under center isn't enticing as one hit by Freeney could be lethal.
Anyways, just my two cents. I'll comment more later.


Moose

[Horfin]

I really don't understand why everyone is on the Bills. They are 3-7 on the road dating back to last year and 4-14 going back two years. Just like detroit, Buffalo is just a bad, very bad road team. Teams now have some film of the QB to review. I don't see it. I was ready to play the jets until I came in here and read this stuff.

[gsad]

I like the Skins with the Pats looking ahead to next week, I think NE will take the Skins lightly and pull out a close win.

[DevilsAdvokt]

I really don't understand why everyone is on the Bills. They are 3-7 on the road dating back to last year and 4-14 going back two years. Just like detroit, Buffalo is just a bad, very bad road team. Teams now have some film of the QB to review. I don't see it. I was ready to play the jets until I came in here and read this stuff.

than play the jets...

thomas jones will take you to the promise land:beerbang:


follow your gut

[DevilsAdvokt]

I like the Skins with the Pats looking ahead to next week, I think NE will take the Skins lightly and pull out a close win.

patriots dont look ahead


try again....


why look past a 4-2 washington team

and not a 0-7 miami

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I really don't understand why everyone is on the Bills. They are 3-7 on the road dating back to last year and 4-14 going back two years. Just like detroit, Buffalo is just a bad, very bad road team. Teams now have some film of the QB to review. I don't see it. I was ready to play the jets until I came in here and read this stuff.

Well...I think Buffalo is a better team than they were in the past couple years, so a game 2 years ago has no bearing on my bet for this week. I am capping the current Bills/Jets rosters, and I feel the Bills have the better talent in all areas. But if you were to use past results, yes their record might be 4-14, but what is the ATS number? I suggest it is alot better, and probably over .500, as the Bills have been a great covering team. The Bills 2 road games this year have also been against NE & Pitt...a little different talent level than the Jets will put out their Sunday...

Jets shouldn't be laying points...its as simple as that to me, they haven't covered either time the were a fav this year, and have one win overall, over Miami....they are bad, where as the Bills really seem to have some confidence. I just don't see NY winning by more than 4 points.

The Toronto/Buffalo Bills win this game outright, IMO. :beerbang:

[Larry]

patriots dont look ahead


try again....


why look past a 4-2 washington team

and not a 0-7 miami

in the case of the miami game there was nothing to look ahead too. Wash aint Indy.