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  • Obama's Birth Certificate - Still Missing

    Last week, during the crucial waning days of the presidential campaign, Obama left for Hawaii to visit his 85-year-old grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, who had broken her hip. In such bad shape was she - in spite of the hospital's sending her home to heal - that Obama told ABC's Robin Roberts, that "I'm still not sure whether she makes it to Election Day."
    Filling in for Obama on the campaign trail in Ohio was his wife, Michelle, who told the crowd that granny was doing just fine.

    Did Obama have a dual purpose in traveling to Hawaii, the other being to magically produce the birth certificate proving his eligibility to be president? While he's now back on the campaign trail, he has still failed to produce said certificate!

    After a recent article I wrote, My Mother's Birth Certicate - And Obama's, a number of people e-mailed me with FactCheck.org's "proof" of the certificate. But let's not forget that FactCheck is owned by the Annenberg Foundation, the same foundation that gave millions of dollars to Obama and his unrepentant terrorist pal William Ayers for an "education" project. To me, that makes FactCheck ipso facto the least credible source of factual information.

    Infinitely more credible is the research done by, among others, Pennsylvania attorney
    Philip J. Berg (ObamaCrimes), Chicago journalist Andy Martin, ContrarianCommentaryBlog and author Jerome Corsi (The Obama Nation), who have cast persuasive, data-provided doubt not only that the birth certificate(s) so far produced were blatant forgeries, but that Obama - and his leftwing media lapdogs - have been concealing the fact that he was born in a hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, a birth his Kenyan grandmother is on record saying she and Obama's half-brother and half-sister attended.

    What else has Obama failed to provide to a public - and an electorate - that deserves to know everything possible about a presidential candidate?

    Occidental College records - not released.
    Columbia Thesis paper - not available, locked down by faculty.
    Harvard College records - not released, locked down by faculty.
    Selective Service Registration - not released.
    Medical records - not released (only a one-page report).
    Illinois State Senate schedule - 'not available.'
    Law practice client list - not released.
    Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - not released.
    Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth - not released.
    Harvard Law Review articles published - None.
    University of Chicago scholarly articles - None.
    Record of Baptism-- Not released or 'not available.'
    Illinois State Senate records--'not available.'


    No wonder Obama's critics have called him a Manuchurian Candidate, a Trojan Horse, and a stealth candidate! If he has nothing to hide, why on earth is he still be refusing to come clean with the American people? Answer: he clearly has a lot to hide.

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    • Originally posted by homedawg
      Obama mob lynches 'Sarah Palin'

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      totally uncalled for and their actions are not right in any fashion or seasonal holiday excuse they may try
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      • Huizenga wants to sell before Obama raises tax
        Monday, October 27, 2008
        South Florida Sun-Sentinel


        Dolphins owner H. Wayne Huizenga said Sunday no date has been set for selling up to 45 percent more of the team to Stephen Ross, but the presidential election is among the issues weighing on his decision.

        That's because a Barack Obama administration is expected to mean higher capital-gains taxes.

        "He wants to double the capital gains tax, or almost double it," Huizenga said. "I'd rather give it to charity than to him."

        Ross purchased 50 percent of the team and Dolphin Stadium for $550 million earlier this year with the intention he would eventually become majority owner.

        "If you do it this year or you do it next year, the difference is humongous because of the taxes," Huizenga said.

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        • Media's Presidential Bias and Decline
          Columnist Michael Malone Looks at Slanted Election Coverage and the Reasons Why
          Column By MICHAEL S. MALONE
          Oct. 24, 2008


          The traditional media are playing a very, very dangerous game -- with their readers, with the Constitution and with their own fates.


          The media have covered this presidential campaign
          with a bias and that ultimately could lead to its downfall.

          The sheer bias in the print and television coverage of this election campaign is not just bewildering, but appalling. And over the last few months I've found myself slowly moving from shaking my head at the obvious one-sided reporting, to actually shouting at the screen of my television and my laptop computer.

          But worst of all, for the last couple weeks, I've begun -- for the first time in my adult life -- to be embarrassed to admit what I do for a living. A few days ago, when asked by a new acquaintance what I did for a living, I replied that I was "a writer," because I couldn't bring myself to admit to a stranger that I'm a journalist.

          You need to understand how painful this is for me. I am one of those people who truly bleeds ink when I'm cut. I am a fourth-generation newspaperman. As family history tells it, my great-grandfather was a newspaper editor in Abilene, Kan., during the last of the cowboy days, then moved to Oregon to help start the Oregon Journal (now the Oregonian).

          My hard-living -- and when I knew her, scary -- grandmother was one of the first women reporters for the Los Angeles Times. And my father, though profoundly dyslexic, followed a long career in intelligence to finish his life (thanks to word processors and spellcheckers) as a very successful freelance writer. I've spent 30 years in every part of journalism, from beat reporter to magazine editor. And my oldest son, following in the family business, so to speak, earned his first national byline before he earned his drivers license.

          So, when I say I'm deeply ashamed right now to be called a "journalist," you can imagine just how deep that cuts into my soul.

          Now, of course, there's always been bias in the media. Human beings are biased, so the work they do, including reporting, is inevitably colored. Hell, I can show you 10 different ways to color variations of the word "said" -- muttered, shouted, announced, reluctantly replied, responded, etc. -- to influence the way a reader will apprehend exactly the same quote. We all learn that in Reporting 101, or at least in the first few weeks working in a newsroom.

          But what we are also supposed to learn during that same apprenticeship is to recognize the dangerous power of that technique, and many others, and develop built-in alarms against them.

          But even more important, we are also supposed to be taught that even though there is no such thing as pure, Platonic objectivity in reporting, we are to spend our careers struggling to approach that ideal as closely as possible.

          That means constantly challenging our own prejudices, systematically presenting opposing views and never, ever burying stories that contradict our own world views or challenge people or institutions we admire. If we can't achieve Olympian detachment, than at least we can recognize human frailty -- especially in ourselves.

          Reporting Bias

          For many years, spotting bias in reporting was a little parlor game of mine, watching TV news or reading a newspaper article and spotting how the reporter had inserted, often unconsciously, his or her own preconceptions. But I always wrote it off as bad judgment and lack of professionalism, rather than bad faith and conscious advocacy.

          Sure, being a child of the '60s I saw a lot of subjective "New" Journalism, and did a fair amount of it myself, but that kind of writing, like columns and editorials, was supposed to be segregated from "real" reporting, and, at least in mainstream media, usually was. The same was true for the emerging blogosphere, which by its very nature was opinionated and biased.


          But my complacent faith in my peers first began to be shaken when some of the most admired journalists in the country were exposed as plagiarists, or worse, accused of making up stories from whole cloth.

          I'd spent my entire professional career scrupulously pounding out endless dreary footnotes and double-checking sources to make sure that I never got accused of lying or stealing someone else's work -- not out of any native honesty, but out of fear: I'd always been told to fake or steal a story was a firing offense … indeed, it meant being blackballed out of the profession.

          And yet, few of those worthies ever seemed to get fired for their crimes -- and if they did they were soon rehired into even more prestigious jobs. It seemed as if there were two sets of rules: one for us workaday journalists toiling out in the sticks, and another for folks who'd managed, through talent or deceit, to make it to the national level.

          Meanwhile, I watched with disbelief as the nation's leading newspapers, many of whom I'd written for in the past, slowly let opinion pieces creep into the news section, and from there onto the front page. Personal opinions and comments that, had they appeared in my stories in 1979, would have gotten my butt kicked by the nearest copy editor, were now standard operating procedure at the New York Times, the Washington Post, and soon after in almost every small town paper in the U.S.

          But what really shattered my faith -- and I know the day and place where it happened -- was the war in Lebanon three summers ago. The hotel I was staying at in Windhoek, Namibia, only carried CNN, a network I'd already learned to approach with skepticism. But this was CNN International, which is even worse.

          I sat there, first with my jaw hanging down, then actually shouting at the TV, as one field reporter after another reported the carnage of the Israeli attacks on Beirut, with almost no corresponding coverage of the Hezbollah missiles raining down on northern Israel. The reporting was so utterly and shamelessly biased that I sat there for hours watching, assuming that eventually CNNi would get around to telling the rest of the story … but it never happened.

          CONT.

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          • The Presidential Campaign


            But nothing, nothing I've seen has matched the media bias on display in the current presidential campaign.

            Republicans are justifiably foaming at the mouth over the sheer one-sidedness of the press coverage of the two candidates and their running mates. But in the last few days, even Democrats, who have been gloating over the pass -- no, make that shameless support -- they've gotten from the press, are starting to get uncomfortable as they realize that no one wins in the long run when we don't have a free and fair press.

            I was one of the first people in the traditional media to call for the firing of Dan Rather -- not because of his phony story, but because he refused to admit his mistake -- but, bless him, even Gunga Dan thinks the media is one-sided in this election.

            Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those people who think the media has been too hard on, say, Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin, by rushing reportorial SWAT teams to her home state of Alaska to rifle through her garbage. This is the big leagues, and if she wants to suit up and take the field, then Gov. Palin better be ready to play.

            The few instances where I think the press has gone too far -- such as the Times reporter talking to prospective first lady Cindy McCain's daughter's MySpace friends -- can easily be solved with a few newsroom smackdowns and temporary repostings to the Omaha bureau.

            No, what I object to (and I think most other Americans do as well) is the lack of equivalent hardball coverage of the other side -- or worse, actively serving as attack dogs for the presidential ticket of Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and Joe Biden, D-Del.

            If the current polls are correct, we are about to elect as president of the United States a man who is essentially a cipher, who has left almost no paper trail, seems to have few friends (that at least will talk) and has entire years missing out of his biography.

            That isn't Sen. Obama's fault: His job is to put his best face forward. No, it is the traditional media's fault, for it alone (unlike the alternative media) has had the resources to cover this story properly, and has systematically refused to do so.

            Why, for example to quote the lawyer for Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., haven't we seen an interview with Sen. Obama's grad school drug dealer -- when we know all about Mrs. McCain's addiction? Are Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko that hard to interview? All those phony voter registrations that hard to scrutinize? And why are Sen. Biden's endless gaffes almost always covered up, or rationalized, by the traditional media?

            Joe the Plumber

            The absolute nadir (though I hate to commit to that, as we still have two weeks before the election) came with Joe the Plumber.

            Middle America, even when they didn't agree with Joe, looked on in horror as the press took apart the private life of an average person who had the temerity to ask a tough question of a presidential candidate. So much for the standing up for the little man. So much for speaking truth to power. So much for comforting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable, and all of those other catchphrases we journalists used to believe we lived by.

            I learned a long time ago that when people or institutions begin to behave in a matter that seems to be entirely against their own interests, it's because we don't understand what their motives really are. It would seem that by so exposing their biases and betting everything on one candidate over another, the traditional media is trying to commit suicide -- especially when, given our currently volatile world and economy, the chances of a successful Obama presidency, indeed any presidency, is probably less than 50/50.

            Furthermore, I also happen to believe that most reporters, whatever their political bias, are human torpedoes … and, had they been unleashed, would have raced in and roughed up the Obama campaign as much as they did McCain's. That's what reporters do. I was proud to have been one, and I'm still drawn to a good story, any good story, like a shark to blood in the water.

            So why weren't those legions of hungry reporters set loose on the Obama campaign? Who are the real villains in this story of mainstream media betrayal?

            The editors. The men and women you don't see; the people who not only decide what goes in the paper, but what doesn't; the managers who give the reporters their assignments and lay out the editorial pages. They are the real culprits.

            Bad Editors

            Why? I think I know, because had my life taken a different path, I could have been one: Picture yourself in your 50s in a job where you've spent 30 years working your way to the top, to the cockpit of power … only to discover that you're presiding over a dying industry. The Internet and alternative media are stealing your readers, your advertisers and your top young talent. Many of your peers shrewdly took golden parachutes and disappeared. Your job doesn't have anywhere near the power and influence it did when your started your climb. The Newspaper Guild is too weak to protect you any more, and there is a very good chance you'll lose your job before you cross that finish line, 10 years hence, of retirement and a pension.


            In other words, you are facing career catastrophe -- and desperate times call for desperate measures. Even if you have to risk everything on a single Hail Mary play. Even if you have to compromise the principles that got you here. After all, newspapers and network news are doomed anyway -- all that counts is keeping them on life support until you can retire.

            And then the opportunity presents itself -- an attractive young candidate whose politics likely matches yours, but more important, he offers the prospect of a transformed Washington with the power to fix everything that has gone wrong in your career.

            With luck, this monolithic, single-party government will crush the alternative media via a revived fairness doctrine, re-invigorate unions by getting rid of secret votes, and just maybe be beholden to people like you in the traditional media for getting it there.

            And besides, you tell yourself, it's all for the good of the country …

            This is the opinion of the columnist and in no way reflects the opinion of ABC News.

            Michael S. Malone is one of the nation's best-known technology writers. He has covered Silicon Valley and high-tech for more than 25 years, beginning with the San Jose Mercury News as the nation's first daily high-tech reporter. His articles and editorials have appeared in such publications as The Wall Street Journal, the Economist and Fortune, and for two years he was a columnist for The New York Times. He was editor of Forbes ASAP, the world's largest-circulation business-tech magazine, at the height of the dot-com boom. Malone is the author or co-author of a dozen books, notably the best-selling "Virtual Corporation." Malone has also hosted three public television interview series, and most recently co-produced the celebrated PBS miniseries on social entrepreneurs, "The New Heroes." He has been the ABCNews.com "Silicon Insider" columnist since 2000.

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            • ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama
              By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 26 minutes ago

              WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday.

              In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

              Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

              The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

              "They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."



              Feds say 2 plotted against Obama
              Posted: 04:46 PM ET

              (CNN) — Federal prosecutors in Tennessee have charged two men with plotting a “killing spree” against African-Americans that would have been capped with an attempt to kill Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

              The U.S. attorney’s office in Jackson, Tennessee, said Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18, were self-described white supremacists who met online through a mutual friend. They have been charged with illegal possession of a sawed-off shotgun, conspiracy to rob a federally licensed gun dealer and making threats against a presidential candidate.

              Cowart and Schlesselman were arrested after an aborted robbery attempt last week, prosecutors said in a statement announcing the charges. They made their initial appearances before a federal judge Monday and are scheduled for a bond hearing Thursday in Memphis.

              ________________________________________

              These 2 kids said all that in court today?
              :conf:

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              • Originally posted by homedawg View Post
                ATF disrupts skinhead plot to assassinate Obama
                By LARA JAKES JORDAN – 26 minutes ago

                WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal agents have broken up a plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and shoot or decapitate 102 black people in a Tennessee murder spree, the ATF said Monday.

                In court records unsealed Monday, federal agents said they disrupted plans to rob a gun store and target a predominantly African-American high school by two neo-Nazi skinheads. Agents said the skinheads did not identify the school by name.

                Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14. The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

                The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

                "They said that would be their last, final act — that they would attempt to kill Sen. Obama," Cavanaugh said. "They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying."



                Feds say 2 plotted against Obama
                Posted: 04:46 PM ET

                (CNN) — Federal prosecutors in Tennessee have charged two men with plotting a “killing spree” against African-Americans that would have been capped with an attempt to kill Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

                The U.S. attorney’s office in Jackson, Tennessee, said Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18, were self-described white supremacists who met online through a mutual friend. They have been charged with illegal possession of a sawed-off shotgun, conspiracy to rob a federally licensed gun dealer and making threats against a presidential candidate.

                Cowart and Schlesselman were arrested after an aborted robbery attempt last week, prosecutors said in a statement announcing the charges. They made their initial appearances before a federal judge Monday and are scheduled for a bond hearing Thursday in Memphis.

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                These 2 kids said all that in court today?
                :conf:
                Supposedly the two kids have a history of mental illness which would explain alot.

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                • Originally posted by coreyschucky View Post
                  Supposedly the two kids have a history of mental illness which would explain alot.
                  This story came out within the last hour, and now there are hundreds of links for this story, and alot of different information. Some are calling these young kids nazis, some with big plans, etc... They were arrested last week, I just dont understand how all this came out in court today?

                  Actually I do Understand! Media Lies & bias! :bang:

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                  • Originally posted by homedawg View Post
                    This story came out within the last hour, and now there are hundreds of links for this story, and alot of different information. Some are calling these young kids nazis, some with big plans, etc... They were arrested last week, I just dont understand how all this came out in court today?

                    Actually I do Understand! Media Lies & bias! :bang:
                    I know just the way they pushed the hell out of the story about the McCain supporter being beaten up by a black Obama supporter:thumbs:

                    MSNBC just stated that this is a non-story and there isn't much too it.

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                    • Originally posted by coreyschucky View Post
                      I know just the way they pushed the hell out of the story about the McCain supporter being beaten up by a black Obama supporter:thumbs:
                      I missed that one?

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                      • Originally posted by homedawg View Post
                        I missed that one?
                        It happened last week the media pushed the story all morning and afternoon until the word came from the Pittsburgh police department that the woman lied.

                        John McCain volunteer admits mugging story is lie - BostonHerald.com

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                        • Originally posted by coreyschucky View Post
                          It happened last week the media pushed the story all morning and afternoon until the word came from the Pittsburgh police department that the woman lied.

                          John McCain volunteer admits mugging story is lie - BostonHerald.com
                          I did see that story on the news "girl gets robbed at an atm machine".

                          You are right: now it is plastered all over the net, hundreds of links: "girl lies about getting beat up". Media Bias!
                          She looks beat up to me!

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                          • Originally posted by homedawg View Post
                            I did see that story on the news "girl gets robbed at an atm machine".

                            You are right: now it is plastered all over the net, hundreds of links: "girl lies about getting beat up". Media Bias!
                            She looks beat up to me!
                            Listen I understand the media bias and there has been in this election but explain to me where the media bias is here. The girl was being put on a pedastal by the media. John McCain called the girl to give his apologies for injuries and this gross attack on her for her beliefs. Barrack Obama included her in a speech that day. A few hours later the Police Dep't comes out and say's the woman has been put to a polygraph and she lied. There was no evidence whatsoever that she had been beaten up. The media looked like fools they weren't being biased.

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                            • Originally posted by coreyschucky View Post
                              Listen I understand the media bias and there has been in this election but explain to me where the media bias is here. The girl was being put on a pedastal by the media. John McCain called the girl to give his apologies for injuries and this gross attack on her for her beliefs. Barrack Obama included her in a speech that day. A few hours later the Police Dep't comes out and say's the woman has been put to a polygraph and she lied. There was no evidence whatsoever that she had been beaten up. The media looked like fools they weren't being biased.
                              She looks like she took a couple to the face to me?


                              All you have to do is google the story, all the links are time/dated... Very few links show the "mccain supporter beat up", hundreds links show "mccain supporter lied"

                              No reason to argue, just do your research! :thumbs:


                              CNN CHOSE NOT TO GO WITH THE ORIGINAL STORY! (LIKE MOST)

                              NOW THEY ARE RUNNING WITH IT!(LIKE MOST)


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                              • Inspector general investigating access to Joe the Plumber's personal information
                                Monday, October 27, 2008 11:33 AM

                                The Columbus Dispatch

                                Ohio's inspector general is investigating why a state agency director approved checking the state child-support computer system for information on "Joe the Plumber."

                                Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK'd the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.

                                She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.

                                Amid questions from the media and others about "Joe the Plumber," Jones-Kelley said she approved a check to determine if he was current on any ordered child-support payments.

                                Such information was not and cannot be publicly shared, she said. It is unclear if Wurzelbacher is involved in a child-support case. Reports state that he lives alone with a 13-year-old son.

                                "Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look" at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

                                Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles confirmed today that he is investigating the incident to determine if "Joe''s" records were legally accessed by Job and Family Services employees.

                                The use of a state computer system to search for information on Wurzelbacher is the fourth uncovered by The Dispatch.

                                Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said.

                                "Based on what we know to this point, we don't have any reason to believe the information was improperly accessed or disclosed by a state employee," said Keith Dailey, Strickland's press secretary.

                                The state attorney general's office said today that information on "Joe" was accessed from a test account it shared with contractors who developed a computer network for the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police.

                                The State Highway Patrol is investigating the "unauthorized access," said Jennifer Brindisi, spokeswoman for Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers. Access to the account was given to the unidentified contractors four years ago, she said.

                                State Highway Patrol records indicate that investigators have a suspect, who is identified as a contractor for the Ohio Department of Insurance. The patrol has seized an agencycomputer as evidence.

                                Donna Braxton, acting executive director of the Dublin-based police chiefs group, said she had not been notified of an investigation.

                                At least four state computer checks on Wurzelbacher were conducted shortly after Republican John McCain frequently brought up "Joe the Plumber" during his final presidential debate with Democrat Barack Obama on Oct. 15.

                                State and local investigators are attempting to determine if the computer systems were illegally accessed when they were used to pull up information on Wurzelbacher.

                                Republicans have seized on the incidents to suggest that the checks were politically motivated invasions of Wurzelbacher's privacy and attempts to dig up dirt to discredit the man. Obama's campaign says it has nothing to do with the incidents and joined Republicans in calling for investigations.



                                The attorney general's office was unaware contractors for the police chiefs' association still had access to state information, Brindisi said. The contractors developed the Ohio Local Law Enforcement Information Sharing Network, which now is operated by the attorney general's office. Security codes since have been changed and access limited to test accounts, she said.

                                The Dispatch reported Saturday that authorities are investigating why driver's license and vehicle registration information on "Joe" was pulled from Bureau of Motor Vehicles computers.

                                BMV information on Wurzelbacher also was obtained through accounts assigned to the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department. Both checks are under investigation.


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