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No I'm not. Like Obama. Like McCain. Hate Palin. Don't have a say, remember? Don't care who wins, really...just a preference as an outsider.
I just find ridiculous, stupid posts humorous! :beerbang: And this thread is chalk full! :thumbs: Just decided not to sweat anything since the first few posts. :thumbs:
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Among the republicans, McCain was the guy who I would have voted for. Would have actually chosen him over hillary.
Palin scares the living **** out of me though. She is all about making stupidity a virtue. Watch the movie Idiocracy, then tell me with a straight face that people like her are not the road to it.可你住在有趣的时代 - May you live in interesting times.
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Gallup Daily: Obama’s Lead Expands to 11 Over McCain
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damn that grumpy old maverick man himself can't like this one
The Washington Independent » Petraeus Talk Bolsters Obama
oh yeah and nothing like being an American
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Barack Obama. Too risky for America.
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DSA — “fundamentally changing our civilization”
October 9, 2008
Oh, Google 2001, what have you done?
First of all, please accept RBO’s humble apology in advance for what may turn out to be a hodgepodge of info and links. There is a purpose to our madness.
Honestly.
Yesterday, RBO’s News & Views — The All in the Alinsky Family Edition plucked some gems from the internetosphere about Obama’s socialist organizational ties. RBO followed this up with fresh insight based on a Spring 2008 article about what we called The Dean Plan.
Throughout yesterday, into the night, and continuing this morning, the email tips and links are overwhelmingly about Obama’s socialist ties and the Far Far Left’s campaign in infiltrate and take over the U.S. of A. as we know it.
Doubt it? Well, in the program for the 46th Annual Debs-Thomas-Harrington Dinner, held May 7, 2004, by the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), we find the following membership page.
In particular, note the last two sentences. Emphasis has been added:
YOU are invited to join this grand enterprise of fundamentally changing our civilization. Join DSA to help change the U.S.A.!
No small task — but that IS the mission — change! change! change! change!
Now WHERE have we heard this before? Hmmmm?
DSA endorses Obama
Surprise! Change!
Steve Gilbert at Sweetness & Light reports today the Democratic Socialists Of US Endorse Obama.
Elsewhere in the blogosphere
Other bloggers have furiously been brushing aside the web archives cobwebs and have found some great information, as well .. and many thanks to RBO helpers RV, SV, FF, kat in your hat, Room101 and SayitAin’tSoJoe, who are keeping the inbox full.
New Party Online News - Elections Update, The Columbus Free Press, undated; posted by the New Party.
Trevor Loudon at The New Zeal first wrote about Obama’s DSA links on February 27, 2008: Obama ‘08 “All the Way With DSA”.
Senator Obama signed contract with Chicago Socialist Party, Yid with Lid, October 8, 2008.
Allahpundit, Was Obama a member of the “New Party”?, Hot Air, October 8, 2008.
Surprise!… Obama Was Affiliated With National Socialist Party Throughout Most of the 1990’s! …Update: Proof, Gateway Pundit, October 8, 2008.
At Politically Drunk: Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of Socialist ‘New Party’ In 1996, October 8, 2008, and 2nd Source Confirms Obama Socialist Party Membership, Plus How They Infiltrated Democratic Party, October 9, 2008.
Marion Valentine, Barack Obama Groomed By New Party Radicals For Socialist Puppet Regime, A Message for America, October 9, 2008.Comment
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I sit here and read these posts and say "self, are these people that ignorant or is it that I misinterpret what I am reading"....Is it that 9/11 is distant memory for you or is it your civil liberties feel threatened or maybe your part French?Who gives a ****?If you are not a terrorist you have nothing to worry about. Dan dont you have a PETA rally or some ACLU function to be attending?I know it is a hard thing to do, but sometimes you actually have to read between the lines.....Holy ****....Again you prove that your in the right business with that snow shovel!:thumbs: Keep em' coming brother, as I said you and Fish provide for great comedy!Last edited by BoKnows; 10-09-2008, 01:01 PM.Comment
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Staying home the civic duty of all dumb Americans
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Barack Obama, Socialist
This may be a case of the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. The political, media, cultural and social establishments are determined to elect the pro-status quo, anti-change candidate, Barack Obama, as President. The power and money arrayed behind Obama seem unbeatable. At the same time, it is inconceivable that the American people would elect a socialist President. So, if this report is correct, something's got to give.
In June sources released information that during his campaign for the State Senate in Illinois, Barack Obama was endorsed by an organization known as the Chicago "New Party". The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards. ...
After allegations surfaced in early summer over the 'New Party's' endorsement of Obama, the Obama campaign along with the remnants of the New Party and Democratic Socialists of America claimed that Obama was never a member of either organization. The DSA and 'New Party' then systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and the Socialist Organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the DSA's New Party.
On Tuesday, I discovered a web page that had been scrubbed from the New Party's website. The web page which was published in October 1996, was an internet newsletter update on that years congressional races. Although the web page was deleted from the New Party's website, the non-profit Internet Archive Organization had archived the page.
Here it is:
So the New Party claimed Obama as a member as of 1996. Progressive Populist magazine agreed in this editorial:
New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George's County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.
The Democratic Socialist Party of America was slightly more modest in claiming Senator Obama as an adherent:
Still, it appears clear that as of 1996, the New Party and its parent organization the Democratic Socialists of America considered Barack Obama to be their guy--one of a handful of avowed socialists running for office at any level in the United States. It strikes me that Obama has some explaining to do.Comment
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Loudon: Even More Weathermen For Obama — Connections, Connections, Connections
October 9, 2008
The Obama File 35 Even more Weathermen for Obama — Connections, Connections, Connections by Trevor Loudon, posted October 8, 2008, on his blog, The New Zeal, is cross-posted at RBO with the author’s permission. Loudon’s first Obama File was posted January 12, 2008.
Trevor writes:
In recent posts I have examined former Weather Underground Organistion (WUO) involvement in two interlinked organisations, Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS) and Progressives for Obama (P4O).
In the mid 1970s the Weather Underground published an 158-page statement entitled “Prairie Fire” callng for the “uniting of all revolutionary forces in this country with the ultimate aim to overthrow the Government.”
Founded in August 2006, MDS seems to be just the type of revolutionary unity the WUO was striving for way back then.
The MDS board includes representatives from three of US’s most influential (and pro-Obama) Marxist organisations, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) and Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS), plus many former members of Students for a Democratic Society and its terrorist splinter the Weather Underground.
Former WUO members and their allies undoubtedly dominate the organisation.
From Weather Underground to Movement for a Democratic Society, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn
I have revealed that three former WUO members, Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd (right) and Jeff Jones have served on the MDS board, as have two close friends of Dohrn’s husband Bill Ayers, former SDS Maoists Carl Davidson and Mike Klonsky–both very familiar names to Obama watchers.
Bill Ayers himself is a prominent MDS activist, while another board member Thomas Good (left) describes himself as an “unrepentant Weather supporter”.
Progressives for Obama is intimately tied to MDS. Four of the six original P4O founders are MDS board members–Carl Davidson (CCDS member), Tom Hayden (former SDS leader) and Bill Fletcher and Barbara Ehrenreich (both DSA leaders).
Mark Rudd and Thomas Good are P4O endorsers, as are Klonsky’s wife Susan and brother Fred. Good edits the MDS “unofficial” ejournal Next Left Notes, which carries a prominent link to PFO. Jeff Jones and two more former Weathermen, Howie Machtinger (a Next Left Notes contributor) and Steve Tappis have signed a P4O supporters petition.
Another P4O petion signatory is Jennifer Dohrn, sister of WUO leader Bernardine Dohrn.
This post looks more closely at Steve Tappis, Bernardine Dohrn and another MDS board member, Bruce Rubenstein.
Bruce Rubenstein
According to an article by Christopher Phelps on MDS and the re-born SDS in The Nation April 2007: Power has resided largely with three figures: historian Paul Buhle, once editor of the original SDS journal Radical America; Thomas Good, a 48-year-old Communist-turned-anarchist who created the new SDS website; and Bruce Rubenstein, a Connecticut personal-injury attorney.
The Nation goes on to comment on tensions within MDS caused by the power of the Weathermen clique:
The Weather controversy erupted when Bernardine Dohrn, a Weather leader who now teaches law at Northwestern University, was invited to speak at the first new SDS conference, held in Providence, Rhode Island, in April 2006. Dohrn received a rousing welcome, but when Bob Ross, an early SDSer, used his talk to lament that “the largest legal and unarmed movement in the history of the West” turned “ineffectually violent and useless,” he was received coolly.
At the first new SDS national convention in Chicago, in August, Good opened the proceedings by reading greetings from Dohrn. Moreover, Rubenstein, MDS’s treasurer, is unapologetic about his Weather history and says that if it were 1969 he would “do it all over again…”
Bruce Rubenstein personally recruited former WUO member Mark Rudd to the MDS.
It also turns out that Rubenstein may also be an Obama supporter.
From the January 12, 2008, Hartford Courant.com
Barack Obama’s Connecticut campaign drew a capacity crowd of 250 to a kickoff event at Yale’s Afro-American Cultural Center today, while Hillary Rodham Clinton rolled out an endorsement by Stamford Mayor Dannel Malloy…Bruce Rubenstein of West Hartford, a fundraiser who likes to play both radical and insider, dropped by.
Rubenstein was also involved in countering a fake Obama blog.
From the blog Down With Tyranny June 1st 2006:
Everyone who has paid any attention at all to Joe Lieberman’s political career knows he is one of the slimiest and low down dirty players in American politics…But posting fake blogs in the name of Barack Obama and Harry Reid is downright bizarre. According to today JOURNAL INQUIRER from north-central Connecticut, the FBI has been brought in on the case. “A Hartford lawyer says the FBI has agreed to investigate postings promoting Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman’s re-election on a popular Connecticut-based Internet ‘blog’ in the names of Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. Bruce D. Rubenstein, a former finance chairman for the Democratic State Central Committee and a Lieberman critic, said Wednesday that an agent in the FBI’s Meriden office told him the agency would probe the postings on the ‘Connecticut Local Politics’ Web log… Obama confirms that Lieberman’s postings were fake and that he never authorized Lieberman to use his name for anything…
Can we chalk up one more Weatherman for Obama?
Jennifer Dohrn
Jennifer Dohrn was never a proven WUO member, but she was a national leader of the the Praire Fire Organising Committee, the WUO’s above ground support network and a spokesman for her terrorist sister.
Later she was married to radical lawyer Haywood Burns, founder of the the “legal arm of the black revolution” the National Conference of Black Lawyers-an affiliate of the Soviet front International Association of Democratic Lawyers.
Burns had close ties to Cuba and was incolved in several other communist fronts including the National Lawyers Guild, Center for Constitutional Rights and the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee.
Burns successfully defended CPUSA radical Angela Davis, who was acquitted of kidnapping and murder charges after the 1970 invasion in 1970 of a California courthouse which killed a judge and three others.
Incidentally, Angela Davis is now a leader of CCDS and was an original MDS board member with Bernadine Dohrn.
Steve Tappis
An original leading Weatherman, with Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Jeff Jones and Howie Machtinger, Steve Tappis was also one of the earliest dropouts.
He has stayed radical all the way however and as recently as September 2008 was involved in a TEACH IN ON THE IRAQ WAR at the University of California Berkeley.
Speakers included Progressives for Obama founder Tom Hayden and PFO website endorsers Daniel Ellsberg, and Immanuel Wallerstein.
Rick Ayers
Described as a “Sixties activist in Chicago”, Tappis was a member of the “Teach In” organising group. Coincidentally another group member was was Berkeley Phd student Rick Ayers–another former WUO member and brother of Bill Ayers-fancy that.
Crossroads Fund
Chicago is home to the Crossroads Fund, a foundation that channels money to organisations such as the Ad Hoc Committee on Chicago Police Torture, Feminist Response in Disability Activism, Female Storytellers Igniting Revolution to End Violence, Illinois Safe Schools Alliance (Formerly Coalition for Education on Sexual Orientation), and well known CPUSA/DSA linked organisations such as the Chicago Committee to Defend the Bill of Rights and Jobs with Justice. Get the picture?
The Fund is co-chaired by leading Chicago DSA member Bill Barclay while Ali Abunimah (right), a claimed Obama associate serves on the board.
Steve Tappis is a donor to the Crossroads fund. Other donors in recent times might also be familar to keen Obama watchers.
A view of Crossroad annual reports here and here reveal some interesting names.
They include Obama’s personal friends Timuel Black (left) (CCDS member and husband of Progressives for Obama endorser Zenobia Black) and DSA member Quentin Young–present at the famous 1995 meeting at the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn which launched Obama’s political career.
Obama financier Bettylu Saltzman (right) is listed as are Progressives for Obama founders Carl Davidson and Tim Carpenter. P4O endorsers Aviva Futorian and Susan Klonsky appear as does MDS board member Mike Klonsky and unsuccessful board nominee Barbara Ransby.
P4O petition signers Ted Pearson (CCDS, former Illinois CPUSA chairman) and Prexy Nesbitt (CPUSA and Black Radical Congress connections) also donate.
Unsurprisingly Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are also listed (in 2005).
Ayers and Dohrn are not just Crossroads donors, they are active fundraisers.
In fall of 2005, Crossroads Fundworked closely with donors and boardmembers to put together houseparties featuring discussion on critical community issues, and also raise money for Crossroads Fund. Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, along with Yvonne Welbon and Dorian Warren hosted a group of donors and friends as they engaged in a lively discussion about political participation in Chicago…
Interestingly, when Crossroads held anniversay celebrations last year they established a 25th Anniversary Host Committee.
Honorary Hosts included Congressman Danny Davis and Alderman Helen Shiller, Alderman Joseph A. Moore, Cook County Clerk David Orr and, of course, Senator Barack Obama.
One wonders if Barack hosted Bill and Bernardine?Comment
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